Everyone knows how rabidly reactionary and shitheaded the SW fandom became after the Disney acquisition but I’m finally at my breaking point with this latest wave of chud whining. The Acolyte got review bombed before it even aired because the showrunner is a lesbian and the leading actress is a gay enby. Also a clip of Stenberg from like 6 years ago made the rounds where she says the goal of a completely different project she was working on was to make white men cry and chuds who get all their news from youtubers thought she was talking about the Acolyte.

Fast forward to the show’s release, the chuds continue to whine about woke Star Wars despite the show’s first several episodes being pretty bland and mid in every regard. To disguise their actual reasons for hating the show (diverse cast and queer showrunner) they pull out the absolute most ridiculous reasons to bash it, including but not limited to:

  • “The writing is awful and the story sucks!” (the dialogue is genuinely quite bad at times but no worse than 95% of star wars projects. The general story is a mystery-thriller that’s compelling enough. Also these same people turn around and say the prequels are incredible so funny-clown-hammer)

  • “The show contracts and ruins the prequels!” alright time to put on my nerd cap because the media literacy of these fucking shitbags is nonexistent. “Dark side user” =/= Sith, Red-lightsaber-user =/= Sith, there are tons of darkside users in the galaxy but the Sith area very specific order that the jedi warred with for thousands of years before they were almost completely wiped out. Also half the point of the prequels was to show the Jedi are blinded by their hubris and waning connection to the force, the Sith were right under their nose the entire time and they were just too arrogant to see it, silly Darth Teeth man doesn’t ruin shit in your dog ass shit fuck childrens movies.

  • “The show RETCONS CANON in an UNACCEPTABLE WAY” this is because a prequel side character’s DOB was retconned and he’s a lot older now and appears in the show. These worthless fucks are sending death threats to Wookiepedia editors who change the character’s DOB and screaming that it’s vile yes that’s right it’s VILE to change a fictional background character’s birthday. Just take a look at the replies on that post, yes I know it’s the bird hellsite filled with ragebait but the responses like “oh well I thought that GATEKEEPING was a BAD THING nerd” are just so bleak. Art and media mean nothing to these people, their hobby is not watching Star Wars, its watching ragebait youtubers and getting violently angry about mundane things in shows they’ve never watched and aren’t interested in democracy-manifest Also these screaming manbabies keep referencing non-canon books and shit as “proof” of the show retconning things

The discourse around TLJ was bad but I think I’m finally done engaging with the SW fandom in any way shape or form. My brain has finally been broken by the chuds. I don’t think I’ll even tell people I like SW anymore because these shitbrains have just ruined it. And yes I know I need to touch-grass but if you don’t spend a decent amount of time in these SW fandom circles I promise you don’t know how bad it actually is

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  • YoungSheldonAdelson [they/them]@hexbear.net
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    The show isn’t good, but not for the reason the reactionaries believe, and it’s not offensively bad.

    Why shouldn’t there be an interpretive dance scene in some random little star wars show? Have we crossed some threshold here? None of the people criticizing the witch dance scene have even left their stinky gamer chairs in the last 10 years.

    The costume work on this show is incredibly mid. I really dislike the mass-produced white Jedi order robes that they wear at the temple, they look maybe one step above a Jedi Halloween costume. We’re supposed to believe this is the Jedi Order at its zenith and the robes are just so drab without any character.

    spoiler

    There could have been an interesting show here if some different choices were made. I would have liked it better if the Jedi didn’t immediately know about the witch coven and what they were up to. They had the perfect opportunity for a classic twin-mixup plotline where the bad twin could be the one saved from the destruction and has to keep it secret from the Jedi that they are an inducted witch and force-wielder in order to survive.

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      Why shouldn’t there be an interpretive dance scene in some random little star wars show?

      The canonical version of Return of the Jedi has had a completely unnecessary musical number in it for over twenty years now.

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        I don’t think Disney gets why Jedi dress the way they do. That’s in large part the fault of George Lucas who definitely didn’t understand why Jedi dress the way they do.

        We meet Obi-wan, a former warrior monk, living in exile on Tatooine, he’s wearing this threadbare brown robe. Clearly, a lot of inspiration was taken from desert nomadic and ascetic religious traditions. Then what is Obi-wan wearing in Episode 3 at the height of the Republic era? The robes he was wearing for his 20-year desert exile on Tatooine!

        Now a hundred years before obi-wan is born all the Jedi are wearing the same brown robes?!

        I’m looking at the Acolyte costumes now and all the leather bits look totally fresh, no creases or signs of use. Are the jedi ascetics with a utilitarian dress code? How come they all dress like a desert nomad while they have their base of operations on a megalopolis city world? I don’t fucking know.

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          Luke didn’t even wear robes in the original trilogy! He wore his farm boy outfit in ANH, flight clothes in ESB, and a black outfit in ROTJ! There was the one scene in Jabba’s Palace when he started off in a robe, but that was clearly because he was trying to stay low profile for as long as he could.

          Same thing with immortalizing the little training remotes as standard issue Jedi training. That was clearly an improvisational training exercise that Obi Wan came up with to teach Luke about his extrasensory perception - when Luke trained with Yoda he alternated between meditation, cardio, and a confrontation with a vision of his potential future.

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          I mean the last bit is on track for a cult run by politically powerful quasi-billionaires.

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        A cupboard

        Not sure if this was an intentional or accidental reference to The Volume, but for folks who don’t follow this stuff, this is a somewhat accurate description of the way many star wars scenes are filmed.

        The volume is a giant chamber encircled by LED screens that display CG backgrounds that respond to camera positioning. The cameras have positioning units that communicate their position to The Volume in realtime, with one of the big benefits being that the camera and the actors can move more freely than they could on a standard green screen. If a camera shifts left, the BG can shift in parallax with it, making it relatively seamless. Because the LED screens emit light, they also provide the scene with much more natural lighting (This is one reason why the Mandalorian can wear shiny armor – It’s reflecting a series of very good displays)

        Kne drawback is that that the bgs must be CG.

        This also limits the scope of a scene, as the BG can’t occlude the actors. Foreground and scene elements must still be added to sets, and if someone wants to, say, enter another room in a house, that doorway must be built in the volume, or the scene must be cut during a transition.

        It’s a fascinating piece of technology, and useful for specific things, but because it’s cheaper than building sets, we see it used when it’s not the best tool for the job too.

        Even so, Andor didn’t use the volume for much, which is why the scenes feel so solid and interactive.