As someone who is AFAB and has naturally high testosterone, yeah it’s bringing up some painful feelings.
Fuck these assholes.
I think people are mistaken when they treat this as some friendly fire incident, acting like the fact that she is a cis woman is in itself a counter-argument to the transphobia. Policing gender expression is the point, this is not transphobes making a mistake, it’s transphobia operating normally.
I agree 100%
It’s no coincidence that Imane Khelif is from decolonized Algeria. The current state of the global gender hegemony is a direct result of colonial gender enforcement.
Bourgeois gender ideology rose to prominence during their early consolidation of power through the transatlantic slave trade and the colonization of the new world. Womanhood as a class category was built in direct opposition to the existence of racialized women: from its inception, bourgeois “womanhood” specifically excluded women of colour.
The bourgeois gender roles didn’t hold for slaves: Black women were expected to toil in “masculinized” field labour alongside the men, and Black men were also used for domestic, “feminized” labour. Womanhood–and manhood, to a lesser extent–was specifically a condition of white European femininity, which needed to protected from the perceived evils of miscegenation. Slaves were dehumanized, literally objectified, and thus ineligible for gendering.
With the abolition of formal chattel slavery, fears of miscegenation became rampant in bourgeois society, and so the status of “womanhood” as a state of white fragility that required protection from the Black Other was cemented. At the same time, feminized labour was still being done by former slaves and now racialized immigrants, mostly men as women were largely excluded from many wage labour activities, which kept the lines between “manhood” and “womanhood” blurry (as perceived by the bourgeois ideology).
The racialized Other was simultaneously feminized, never able to truly attain the dominant position of “man,” which was a bourgeois (and thus white) class position, and dehumanized, projected to be a dangerous object of violence, an “animal.” Racialized women, who due to immiseration and systemic denial of opportunities, continued to labour in ways unfit for (white, bourgeois) “womanhood,” were not granted entry into the role of “woman.” While white womanhood was a position of fragility, a potential victim of the perceived dangers of miscegenation, racialized women were excluded from womanhood (and, through objectification, humanity) itself, the overwhelming victims of gender-based and sexual violence, which became a tool leveraged by white men to control, dominate, and punish those who strayed from their perceived “place.”
The one-two punch of white (woman) fragility, and white (man) domination, are essential kernels of bourgeois/colonial gender ideology, and are methods still in use to enforce colonial/imperial roles on the world at large.
GOOD comment
Honestly it’s so fucking disgusting and it isn’t new. Back in the day Serena Williams got the same treatment but obviously not as intense as the trans hate train hadn’t gained as much speed. Such a big part of it is racism. They don’t want to celebrate women in sport. They want to celebrate particular women. Going back to the Serena Williams example, they wanted to see Hingis or Sharapova win. Wonder why
Yes, I hate that women have to look a certain way to be considered women. It’s fucking stupid.
Like you say it’s very linked to racism. Anytime a black woman wins at sport dudes are always bringing out the ‘looks like a man’ bullshit.
Fuck their hate of strong women.
Once again, liberals are such rubes for thinking any of this is out of a serious desire to ”protect women’s sports”, no TERF gives a shit about women’s sports.
These transphobes only think women can be supermodels and nothing else.
Michelle Obama was also the target of transvestigators with close up shots and shopped pics of her groin area.
Spread that rumor. Like 
Well some good news at least
Good.
It’s a shame that the damage has been done though, and Imane Khelif had her victory dampened by lies that are still probably going to persist because assholes don’t care and just want to make out like there is some evil trans conspiracy
I know it’s just a machine translation thing, but cabal is too cool of a word for these losers.
It isn’t a machine translation thing this time, the original reads “… pour leur cabale et la diffusion de fake news…”
Our word cabal comes from the French word with the same meanings
Yeah, it’s really fucking gross seeing people just go completely mask off about this
Really goes to show that intersection of Misogyny, Transphobia, Racism and Nationalism
This shit is going to lead to more violence against women isn’t it?
That’s what I’m afraid of too. It’s like this is the latest interation of the cishet patriarchy lashing out in an attempt to reassert the total dominance it once had. It’s doing that in this case by taking female athletes and trying to strictly police their appearance.
It’s so fuckin dumb. Everyone in fighting is sauced up on T. It’s irrelevant and just how it is. The same body that tests Olympians tested the ufc for many years and anyone who has been following the UFC knows how much of a fuckin joke that is. Almost everyone has elevated T levels due to juicing and ya know what that’s just OK. All of a sudden it’s a big issue for this girl for some reason and everyone latched on to it.
Because she is non white, African, and swept the floor with a white Italian fascist lady. That is the real underlying reason beyond just bog standard transphobia.
swept the floor with a white Italian fascist lady.
White Italian fascist lady cop
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Yeah but I know lots of assholes who would see that and scoff “Those are women? Ha!”
It’s really annoying that when women are buff and prove their strength in sports where they are required to bulk up it’s not really widely acknowledged as example of female achievement.
Women are only women to normies when they do things that fit a narrow range of what the status quo considers “feminine” at the time.
“Those are women? Ha!”
And they’d be self reporting because EVERY weightlifter with any degree of discipline regarding staying on that shit will eventually look that way. That’s not ‘model shoot’ bodybuilding, that is ‘lumberjacked’ bodybuilding. One of the homies I used to work out with went from couch potato with a jelly belly to straight up stout ball of muscle, homie was lookin like a butterball turkey, via deadlifts and squat press; regardless of gender that’s just what happens to you when you’re really hoisting hella plates like that
Yeah it’s a lot of the type of muscle people build depends on the exercise you’re doing, regardless of sex. A lot of women’s exercise focuses on exercise that won’t bulk you up. This leads to people thinking bulk is abnormal on cis women which is just… untrue.
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What’s mind-boggling to me is how far on the “reality denial” scale this is. A woman with a vagina and a uterus, their textbook definition of a “biological female”. Transvestigations used to be reserved to the most fringe facebook lunatics out there, and now all of a sudden every woman at the Olympics is unironically being transvestigated, including a few white women. It’s so bizarre and everything they say is almost aggressively untrue, they’re barely even trying.
Transphobia was never based on science, it was always unhinged paranoia and this is the logical conclusion, lol
A guy I know who is typically “normal” (although very anticommunist) went on a long rant about hip length or some shit in a group chat im in. I’ve know the guy for 20+ years at this point and he keeps becoming more reactionary every year I feel. Doesn’t help that he’s in the medical industry either. I can’t stand this shit, and it gets tolerated or at least, not called out by others in our clique. I stepped away from digital communications with them for almost a year because of how toxic he is. Its like the text chat is his internal monolog because he’s rarely like this in person.
But I’ll probably disengage again after this latest screed, but man, its hard. That group has been stable for 20+ years. Most of them are still cool. Its just frustrating to watch these takes go unchallenged. I don’t have the energy to do it myself anymore.
If your clique includes fat Canadian commie dads, I’d be happy to join!
As a father of post-irony irony-poisoned teens, I am quite adept at being a real commie motherfucker on the downlow.
All commie parents are welcome to come chat on the matrix parenting channel I set up! Check the sticky post in [email protected] for more details.
how long my hips gotta be before I get the stamp, according to this guy
Whatever length creates the rotational forces required to not punch like a girl I imagine. I didn’t stick around to read his dissertation.
“Hip length” is so funny to me. Ty for this.
Haha any time.
It’s like they just keep getting dumber and more belligerent. People are a pain in the ass.
Repeated covid infections and constantly increasing atmospheric %CO2 and temperatures mean we all get to look forward to everyone being a little dumber and more belligerent until we don’t
I’m a cis white male who was transphobic up till like 2 and a half years ago and its making my head spin. You’d think the terfs would be lined up to defend the cis woman from a country where being trans is illegal rather than stacking up on the side that is falsely accusing a woman of being trans. Its fucking bonkers.
It’s the meme of the guy with the two buttons and they’re labelled ”Be racist” and ”Be transphobic”, except instead of hesitating, TERFs are hammering both buttons like they’re playing Track & Field.
She and Algeria are becoming unintentional trans allies by forcing these
to recognize the reality that gender isn’t always strictly narrowly binary and nature itself expresses this. An olympic level competitor got a fascist to rage quit in under a minute. 
wait, so this whole thing started because a corrupt Russian chud boxing official said that she has XY chromosomes?
Not surpsrising that there’s zero proof but she didn’t even fail a “legitimate” WADA test? Just some corrupt boxing federation bullshit?
It’s strange that Russians are untrustworthy liars until it comes to transvestigation, then they are unimpeachable paragons of truth
This is jaw droopingly horrifying to watch. Sheer racist gender policing. It hurts to watch some women attack others over this shit, how is this liberation? Are women just not allowed to be good at things?
I can’t understand why some people are so consumed by fear and hate that they are willing to side with men who want them chained up inside or thrown in nunneries again. Like wtf?
This transvestigating stuff is based in a nonsense Victorian feminine ideal, you shouldn’t base your world view on what lead-addled racists from an evil empire thought was good.
I can’t understand why some people are so consumed by fear and hate that they are willing to side with men who want them chained up inside or thrown in nunneries again
They often already occupy a place of (relative) privilege within the social hiearchy of “gender classes” and such, it pays to punch down and maintain your position of privilege.
