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      You’d think with all their snobby affluence that these guys would be able to read but nope! They probably love CinemaSins too and think it’s “epic bacon” lemmitor

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        They probably love CinemaSins too and think it’s “epic bacon”

        Ugh, the people that still like that shit are insufferable to me, especially the way they ride the rails of what isn’t a “sin” and it leads to even more plastic expectations for their treats.

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          Yeah I genuinely think CinemaSins did irreparable damage to media literacy in that sense, they’ve fueled an anti-intellectual movement trying to rigidly compartmentalize art into strict templates and categories based on what they think is the “correct” way vs the “incorrect”. Some user here who I can’t remember once said something like: media and art have become a puzzle to be solved or a game to be broken, instead of an experience for the viewer full of ideas and meaning. IMO that’s the true “treat culture” and a byproduct of capitalism reducing art to a commodity instead of a genuine representation of the human condition and the emotional honesty it requires to fully engage with it

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            Yeah I genuinely think CinemaSins did irreparable damage to media literacy in that sense, they’ve fueled an anti-intellectual movement trying to rigidly compartmentalize art into strict templates and categories based on what they think is the “correct” way vs the “incorrect”. Some user here who I can’t remember once said something like: media and art have become a puzzle to be solved or a game to be broken, instead of an experience for the viewer full of ideas and meaning. IMO that’s the true “treat culture” and a byproduct of capitalism reducing art to a commodity instead of a genuine representation of the human condition and the emotional honesty it requires to fully engage with it

            I’ve gotten shit for saying that before but I’ll keep saying it anyway. We are affected by what we consume, whether or not we’re aware of it not-immune-to-propaganda and it that vulnerability can be signaled in subtle and insidious ways like “____ much?” getting said in imitation to the CinemaSins delivery style in defense of CinemaSins brainworms .

            I can’t help trying to imagine what a “sinless” movie/show would look like by those standards. Probably pretty fucking bland.

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              I can’t help trying to imagine what a “sinless” movie/show would look like by those standards.

              Probably like a Lolbertarian wet dream, ie. perfectly logical men (only men, no UnStaBLe FeeEEeeEmALeS) making perfectly logical decisions like fuckin robots for the fake nonsense conflicts they encounter, and the villain is either women or “The State™” or WOKEness. so basically Atlas Shrugged lol

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                I can totally see something like that being “sinless.” It might be some outright slop with no coherent political message outside of “check out this smirking cool guy that fucks and kills and is very smart and does everything right and wins all the time because logic and reason!”

                Like the Witcherino with less character flaws/weaknesses and a higher win rate than Based Saint Geraldo the Morally Grey.

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    Audience scores are influenced by the fact that people actively try to avoid watching things they will dislike. This is very easy for most people to see they will hate.

    Poor audience scores on a movie usually demonstrate that marketing successfully lied to people about the content of the movie so they didn’t avoid it beforehand.

    This is also why most people average 7/10 when giving ratings to shows rather than 5/10. People pre-select stuff they already know they want to watch, they don’t choose anything that they think will be below a 7/10 because they don’t want to watch anything below that.

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      That’s quite insightful, and it also explains why 10/10 is so easily milked out of chuds that came for clapter value from a chud-signaling trash movie. All it had to do is dispense slop when they lined up for it.

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        it’s kinda obvious when you think about it. You have to pick your movies with RNG if you want your score to average 5/10 because you need to include absolute trash in your watchlist. People do not pick their movies with RNG, we are selecting for things we think we might like.

        This goes for videogames and other stuff too.

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          Even that assumes that movies should be graded to a curve discounting that people may rate movies in a more absolute sense of how much they enjoyed them and that the craft of film makers can result in more movies being enjoyable than not.

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    Something about that facial hair looks so performative and tryhard yet so dorky that I am at a loss to properly describe it. Smearbeard? kelly

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    “The mainstream is not fascist enough!”

    Why do I get the feeling most of Hollywood is just like Elon Musk? Libs one scratch away from being just like him? Look at Tara Strong who’s seething at the existence of Muslims rn and posting Zionist propaganda.

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      If there’s one thing I think leftists are kind of good at, is that we tend to hatewatch things a LOT less.

      Look at Velma, it attracted loads of fascists who hatewatched a show that DARED to make the usual potshots they make at minorities right back at white men. We weren’t all rushing to see Mr. Birchum just to hatewatch it. We learned our lesson from stonetoss.

      Now, the few times I see any leftists discussing CHUD media is if it’s decades old and we’re examining it to understand CHUD psychology. Like a copy of Mein Kampf but full of historians pointing out when Hitler is bullshitting the reader.

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        we tend to hatewatch things a LOT less

        Tbf dunk_tank and by extension this comm are both basically hatewatching for social media posts. I’m not making a value judgment on that (I mod dunk_tank lol) but leftists absolutely have the same proclivity for ragebait, I think most terminally online people do, we’re just not as publicly frothing as reactionaries are because leftists generally don’t try to make careers/money off it

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          I haven’t seen that movie and the amount of memes over it made me question what was even real. The early use of deepfakes to turn the memes into realistic looking edits didn’t help.

          Like I don’t know if Jared Leto actually said “It’s morbin’ time!” because I’ve seen clips of him using that line before morbing all over the place and killing 20 goons or whatever.

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        In order to stay pure, our hatred requires only for us to continuously bear witness to the capitalist class brutalizing nature and destroying endless lives in pursuit of greed.

        Chuds aren’t principled, they are very frivolous in their hatred. If they didn’t constantly doomscroll 4chan and twitter while sinking progressively deeper into reactionary black holes within the youtube algorithm, they’d very quickly forget who they’re even supposed to hate and why.

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          Chud propaganda is like those negative-space pictures, it traces a perfect outline of capitalism by telling them to hate anything and everything except capitalism.

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          It’s called the immortal science for a reason. I’m jealous chuds have to go out of their way to find material they hate/get offended by. You can’t consume any media in the English-speaking world without being exposed to capitalist brainworms. I wish my Spanish was better or that I spoke Korean and Mandarin so I could watch commie movies 😞

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        Look at Velma, it attracted loads of fascists who hatewatched a show that DARED to make the usual potshots they make at minorities right back at white men.

        I tried to hatewatch Velma, but I got tired and stopped.

        Unlike Gambo or even Richard and Mortimer, there was no monolithic cultural pressure that kept re-exposing me to the product, so I saved myself the trouble and stopped paying any attention to the Velma trash until the Velma trash-maker declared that good-morning was Khaleesi™. I got the context and I cringed into next week.