capitalist coping “YES IF YOU ARE IN A CRITICAL INDUSTRY YOU HAVE LESS OF A RIGHT TO STRIKE”

Entire thread on r/news is just the same sentiment of libs worried about their treats while the rest of America is already stuck in poverty and the world suffers already from American economic dominance.

edit for clarity.

  • PKMKII [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    “Noooo you can’t go on strike if it might affect stonks-down and the flow of my treats made by exploited third world labor!”

    Also notice that it’s not, critical workers are being underpaid and exploited to the point of striking, so let’s blame the owners for the impact to the economy.

    That being said, I don’t like the framing of writers and actors being privileged. Those are unions where they have a very small handful of ultra-rich megastars, but the vast majority of them are struggling just to make a living off their craft.

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      I agree! They immediately think of actors, or directors, etc. Instead they fail to think of set designers, make-up artists, FX people, etc. There is something there to a liberal looking at the industry and seeing the richest as a general guide for how everyone else must be doing (maybe not as rich, etc)

      On top of that, they also don’t even question why bank managers, financial analysts and other useless fucking jobs make over 400k? But longshoremen wanting job security and pay increases are bad? Instead they mask it with “NOOOOO DON’T HINDER PROGRESS TO MAKE US ALL CONTRACTED WAGE-SERFS!!”

      Absolutely garbage people in that thread.

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        I remember this LinkedIn post talking about the potential in automating C-suite functions and the comments were full of “ morshupls Ackshully there are very important intangibles that only a coked out MBA former frat boy can do that AI simply isn’t capable of morshupls

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          Those same lanyard enjoyers were smugposting about how us meat computers would be replaced everywhere by treat printers and that we should celebrate being replaced, but were so narcissistic that they didn’t notice how their own jobs were actually easier to replace than the rest at the moment their fellow lanyard enjoyers decided to fuck them over.

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      Also notice that it’s not, critical workers are being underpaid and exploited to the point of striking, so let’s blame the owners for the impact to the economy.

      Are you expecting liberals to follow a chain of cause and effect with multiple steps?

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          They can’t do that either. Ask a liberal who claims to be sympathetic to Palestinians and lives outside of a swing state why they’re voting for Kamala. There’s no chance they identify that providing affirmative support to a candidate who does not need it outside of swing states does nothing but give the candidate more room to ignore pressure from voters.

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    “Imagine if healthcare workers go on strike!”

    Yeah? We’ve been striking on and off for like the last 3 years here in the UK having not striked for literally decades beforehand. Treat the workers better and they won’t strike?

    Oh and the public support it so you’re onto a losing argument there already.

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    I saw some randos online saying that if an industry is too important for a strike it should be nationalized, so that was heartening.

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      In a matter of perspective, if the longshoremen strike and hospitals with the 600k a year doctors can’t perform surgeries without supplies; why aren’t the longshoremen getting a living wage and security guarantees?

      • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        I was a teenager arguing on 4chan and I came to this conclusion one time many many years ago. We were talking about how only a super special guy could find the cure for cancer and I was all “then why shouldn’t the entire team of researchers get a bunch of money? If the cancer doctor got billions and billions, why wouldn’t the suppliers charge them a shitload?”

        It was a real proto-philosophy that led to my idea that we make a society focused on the betterment of people instead of enshittifying the finite Earth for the sake of the rate of profit.

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    Surely, the porkies can’t pull off making the workers look like the bad guys for wanting more money in this economy

    Reality:

    what-the-hell

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    The workers more than anybody should dictate what tech comes in. They have the bazinga filter these children on Reddit and the freaks in the board room are missing

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      “STOP HINDERING PROGRESS” the Redditoid says as your familiar mechanical controls on your crane are replaced with a giant touchscreen and chatgpt input filter.

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        “STOP HINDERING PROGRESS” the Redditoid says as your familiar mechanical controls on your crane are replaced with a giant touchscreen and chatgpt input filter.

        Um, sorry to say this, hate to break it to you, but to be brutally honest, you forgot to mention the A~I that will eventually make the crane operate itself and probably be more conscious and self-aware than you are, meat computer. Is that emotion I see? Perhaps fear? Siiiiigh. smuglord

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        So if we’re hindering progress, does that mean they’re the soy liberal progressive and we’re the based conservatives?

        Sorry snowflakes, but real red-blooded men don’t associate with clankers.

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      My kneejerk reaction to the “no automation” was negative, but after reading the actual explanation why, I totally agreed.

      Automation is better in theory, but in typical capitalist fashion it’s mostly done in a hamfisted way to push out labor and ends up costing more in the long run through high initial and long term costs.

      In order for tech to work right in blue collar work, it really needs to be designed and implemented almost entirely by the workers themselves.

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        It usually doesn’t even ‘push out’ labor, it simply makes it have the appearance of being deskilled, so the worker has to learn to not only do the job they were doing before, but recognize when automation is fucking up and usually get paid less.

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        And not just blue collar. Society has been widely fucked by malinvestment in technology. This isn’t ludditism but the reality that technology isn’t neutral or a net benefit in itself.,

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    One day, in the socialist future, students will be reading about this stuff completely confused

    “Teacher, why would they keep piling on essential duties to so few people and treat them so badly? Why did other workers not sympathize and feel solidarity?”

    And it’s gonna be weird and hard to explain, it’s just not how it worked in our time. No it doesn’t make sense, it was a very different time

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    Imagine if your doctors earning 300k a year decide to strike to demand 600k a year and people are dying left and right as a result

    close, they only do that if healthcare is threatened to be socialized

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    porky-scared-flipped “Why is no one rallying around my inspirational message of ‘you must work, regardless of conditions, so I can wipe my ass; until that glorious day when we can dispose of you utterly!’? It focus grouped really well in the boardroom…”

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      I would work for half the money if I thought I was doing actual good and helping build a better society, and I’m just scraping minimum wage as it is. I think that’s the biggest cause of the millennial/gen z leftism memes, we don’t think this ship is going anywhere anymore.

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    Wow, I knew the crackers would hit this point because its their treats on the line; but I didn’t think it’d happen that fast. It still took like three days for the lib recalcitrance to jump out when the rail workers did it; this feels like it was overnight.

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      It literally was. I’m honestly shocked. It’s like they didn’t even mull over any of the reasons why they’re striking; just immediate “OH NO MY TREATS”

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      They learned from last time.

      They tried to give lip service to the strikers which made it awkward when the “most pro labor president in history” said he would personally sign off on crushing the strike and they had to try to explain why that was fine and totally different from everytime a reoublican president does the same thing.

      Not gonna fall for that one again.

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    I think a lot of people don’t get that a protest or strike is a demonstration of power in a negotiation. This is probably why liberals love the completely ineffectual go stand around in a park on a saturday afternoon permits in hand style of protest.

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      Yup liberals only like symbolic gestures not actually exerting power.

      It’s why their response to republicans saying “I don’t fucking care what are you gonna do about it” is always “you have no idea how bad you look right now”