don’t be so dramatic. calling out ableism isn’t “wrecker shit” it’s valid and a simple qualification is all that the top-level comment needs to no longer be ableist. you are just concern trolling.
I mean… you are being dramatic and uncharitable first, it’s not absurd for the person above to respond in the same level of “drama”.
Those who are so disabled that they are unable to contribute in any way to a socialist project are such a small minority that it’s actively de-railing to center every conversation of tactics and strategy around them. If you continue to make such demands and get in fights with people trying to take serious actions, then you are wrecking.
Anyone capable of getting online and posting comments is also capable of doing real work for socialism via online methods. Socialist organizations need help spreading their message, doing recruiting, organizing with others, creating agitprop, etc.
I’m disabled btw. Most disabled people are still capable of contributing to social projects. Those that aren’t aren’t really a factor in our tactics or strategy.
There are people who are so disabled they can’t contribute, which means the people who are not that disabled should be working even harder to cover for them. From each to their abilities to each according to their needs.
The post I initially replied to was a classic concern troll. The top post had nothing to do with any marginalized group, but that poster brought them in to derail a totally legitimate point of view. No amount of malding a day later by you will change that.
it’s not fucking concern trolling for marginalized people to bring up their experiences or their concerns over how certain rhetoric may negatively impact them, you worthless chauvinist asshole
The post I initially replied to was a classic concern troll. The top post had nothing to do with any marginalized group, but that poster brought them in to derail a totally legitimate point of view. No amount of malding a day later by you will change that.
yeah, this is my issue with people banging this particular drum. a lot of us are out here just surviving, that takes all the energy most of the time. and i’m lucky enough to have a roof over my head, there are those far worse off than me for whom having a “socialist plan of action” for each day is an understandably low priority compared to you know, not starving to death or dying from exposure. that’s the daily struggle for thousands in my country, many of whom are disabled also. now, as a gender gremlin, i consider my leaving the house an act of violence against the patriarchal Gender regime. i take my small achievements as they come. i read theory when i can. i wear a mask. i expend most of my energy making sure my gfs and I eat at least one meal a day. is my existence less revolutionary for being disabled and not having the capacity to physically organise like abled people can? it’s privileged shit to say, is my point.
Yeah, it was a very short sighted way to say it. Sorry. The extent to which you can make the world a better place is enough; obviously for a lot of people they are simply unable to do much more than talk to some other people, or wear a mask as you mentioned. That’s good enough.
you’re good! like i said it was obvious you were coming from a place of good faith, and we are fundamentally in agreement; phrasing just rubbed me the wrong way a bit. appreciate the reply.
sounds reactionary, what if you’re disabled?
From each to each. Your ability is factored in
If showing up is the most you can do then do that we always enjoy seeing our comrades at John Brown Breakfast Club!
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don’t be so dramatic. calling out ableism isn’t “wrecker shit” it’s valid and a simple qualification is all that the top-level comment needs to no longer be ableist. you are just concern trolling.
I mean… you are being dramatic and uncharitable first, it’s not absurd for the person above to respond in the same level of “drama”.
Those who are so disabled that they are unable to contribute in any way to a socialist project are such a small minority that it’s actively de-railing to center every conversation of tactics and strategy around them. If you continue to make such demands and get in fights with people trying to take serious actions, then you are wrecking.
Anyone capable of getting online and posting comments is also capable of doing real work for socialism via online methods. Socialist organizations need help spreading their message, doing recruiting, organizing with others, creating agitprop, etc.
I’m disabled btw. Most disabled people are still capable of contributing to social projects. Those that aren’t aren’t really a factor in our tactics or strategy.
There are people who are so disabled they can’t contribute, which means the people who are not that disabled should be working even harder to cover for them. From each to their abilities to each according to their needs.
disengage
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shut the fuck up dickhead
no seriously choke. if you tried to pull this bullshit with any other marginalized group you’d already be banned.
The post I initially replied to was a classic concern troll. The top post had nothing to do with any marginalized group, but that poster brought them in to derail a totally legitimate point of view. No amount of malding a day later by you will change that.
it’s not fucking concern trolling for marginalized people to bring up their experiences or their concerns over how certain rhetoric may negatively impact them, you worthless chauvinist asshole
guzzle human shit until you die, loser
suck it out of my ass
Disengage.
Dying on patsoc hill to hold an incursion of disabled people at bay
The post I initially replied to was a classic concern troll. The top post had nothing to do with any marginalized group, but that poster brought them in to derail a totally legitimate point of view. No amount of malding a day later by you will change that.
You do what you’re able to? Which when piling on the struggle of disability to all the other struggles makes it understandable if you can’t do much.
This is the right answer imo. “From each according to their ability”
thank you for the reasonable summation and not being an asshole about it unlike a certain he/him in the thread.
yeah, this is my issue with people banging this particular drum. a lot of us are out here just surviving, that takes all the energy most of the time. and i’m lucky enough to have a roof over my head, there are those far worse off than me for whom having a “socialist plan of action” for each day is an understandably low priority compared to you know, not starving to death or dying from exposure. that’s the daily struggle for thousands in my country, many of whom are disabled also. now, as a gender gremlin, i consider my leaving the house an act of violence against the patriarchal Gender regime. i take my small achievements as they come. i read theory when i can. i wear a mask. i expend most of my energy making sure my gfs and I eat at least one meal a day. is my existence less revolutionary for being disabled and not having the capacity to physically organise like abled people can? it’s privileged shit to say, is my point.
Yeah, it was a very short sighted way to say it. Sorry. The extent to which you can make the world a better place is enough; obviously for a lot of people they are simply unable to do much more than talk to some other people, or wear a mask as you mentioned. That’s good enough.
you’re good! like i said it was obvious you were coming from a place of good faith, and we are fundamentally in agreement; phrasing just rubbed me the wrong way a bit. appreciate the reply.