Summary
Trump is pushing for softer language on Russia’s war in Ukraine, straining G7 unity.
Officials say the U.S. is blocking references to “Russian aggression” and prefers calling it the “Ukraine conflict.”
This shift follows Trump’s peace talks with Putin that excluded Ukraine’s President Zelensky, whom Trump later called a “dictator.”
The change in rhetoric contrasts with Biden-era support for Ukraine and threatens a unified G7 stance.
It’s almost as if he works for Putin
Blow it apart. America doesn’t belong with its former Allies.
Its clear that America has no interest in being apart of the free world, they checked out.
Now fuck off and go destroy yourselves in a frenzy over transgender bathroom doors and eggs. The rest of us still have lives to live and futures to protect.
The fuck is G7 anyway, but the face of global capitalism?
Just doublechecking my premises, there’s this from Investopedia:
The Group of Seven is an intergovernmental organization made up of the world’s largest developed economies: France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the United States, the United Kingdom, and Canada. Government leaders of these countries meet periodically to address international economic and monetary issues, with each member taking over the presidency on a rotating basis…
Yeah, fuck 'em, but all is forgiven if G7 has the balls to expel America.
G8 expelled Russia for the original Ukrainian invasion in 2014. If need be, I suppose they can become G6. Or honestly, in this day and age, there are many more nations whose opinions should be considered. G7 is pretty eurocentric and I say this as an European (though not a citizen of any of the 7)
Replace the US with China
It was a thought I had too, but tbh I feel iffy about China.
If China’s willing to stop supporting Russia, I could see the west sans US starting closer ties with China. That alliance would be an economic powerhouse for sure.
I figure the best way to convince China to stop supporting Russia is to give them a better option. Europe is a bigger economy and more in line with many of China’s goals. Russia is chaotic and weak by comparison.
That would piss them off so much lol
Got me feelin’ so fly, like a G6
Kick the US out. If our democracy survives Trump, you can always readmit us when we have a president who acts in good faith. Otherwise, this shit is only going to get worse…
Unfortunately it’s likely going to take more than just electing a nice guy for USA to earn back its status as a trustworthy ally. When the country can just go rogue every four years, making threats against allies and backing out of agreements — and half of the country is so nationalist that they applaud it — you can’t really establish a basis of trust.
Precisely this. Once this trust has been lost and the ‘G6’ face a world where they cannot count on the US, geopolicies will change and the US will not be perceived trustworthy anytime soon. As it stands, it will be considered yet another global power with anti-democratic tendencies, policies that endanger world piece and disrupt the common pursuit for prosperity and is considered best kept in check.
I’m a US citizen. Please kick us out. The more countries that take concrete action against us that actually hurt us the more likely congress and the voters are to stand up to Trump.
If you think any fact will affect the American public, you are much more optimistic than me.
Republicans will blame Soros, o Pelosi, or AOC and trump will have even more support.
That’s assuming they even pay attention to anything international other than Ukraine or Israel (many don’t).
By allowing our politicians a seat at the table you’re opening yourself up to more harm.
Isolate us, make the voting public feel the consequences of their actions. Respond to tariffs with tariffs on red states. Sanction administration official of the inevitable human rights abuses that are coming. Call out the lies of our Government openly and with evidence.
This isn’t going to change if there are never any consequences for the people who’re doing this as well as their supporters. Revoke the visas of our oligarchs, limit their travel, stop doing business with their companies. Create incentives for educated Americans to immigrate to healthier democracies and ban our social media companies before they finish poisoning your country as well.
We don’t want educated Americans emmigrating elsewhere. We want you to fix your shit and educated Americans are the only ones that can do that.
If you leave, the idiots are left in charge of some of the spiciest military hardware and without smart people, will probably end up using it.
The voting public seem to be pretty susceptible to whatever spin the Orange House puts on the consequences of their actions.
Do you really believe they’ll see through what Trump does and blame themselves before blaming Canada, for example?
Agreed. We earned this. I hope we gain the world’s trust again, but it’ll most likely never be like it was…
Yeah, China’s not in even though it’s the second largest economy in the world. In the 90s it almost became G-8 to include Russia, but then Putin screwed that up.
It’s not all that different of a situation from Russia being kicked out because of Putin’s shenanigans, really.
Should try to get Brazil to leave BRICS and join the G-7 club. The US could go be in BRICS bullshit (or maybe then it’d be called the USRICS?) with the other authoritarian assholes of the world.
Kick us out, Trump is not in the G7 to do anything but fuck it up. Being a self interested stakeholder is normal but he’s not self interested. He is clearly under Putin’s influence.
American here: make it the G6. I am 100% serious. Trump is not your friend, and the rest of our fucking government is demonstrably inept in the extreme in terms of resisting this fascist takeover.
Yes, PLEASE! The rich fucks need to start feeling the consequences of this bullshit where it hurts. It’s the only domestic demographic that can offer enough pressure to motivate this administration to change their behavior.
Amen. Also American. Cut America off. Do not stand for this stupidity. If American voters regain their minds in 2 or 4 years, we can all figure out how to move on. If not, America doesn’t deserve your grace and goodwill when it’s showing none. Ostracize us for the good of the world.
Fucking clown.
Another American here. Yeah, we’re not Europe’s friend anymore. I hate it, but it’s true. Dear Leader has made it abundantly clear that unless you are somehow enriching him and/or his billionaire cabinet, he’s not interested in being your friend. You can hold up as many past agreements and treaties his predecessors signed and it won’t mean jack shit to him. Putin is his daddy because Putin loves oligarchs, and wants to be an oligarch sooooooo bad.
honest to god embargo us. saction us. you will do more to help our people by cutting donald trump at the knees than anything else you could do. we need help making his cult realize what they’ve done is bad and i think the only way that happens is if food gets expensive
It’s going to end up that way whether EU does something now or not. He’ll just pick up his ball and leave like he’s done every time so far.
I’ve come to notice that the rest of the world is already beginning to leave us behind. The realization came with the TikTok ban. Soon as I heard that TikTok could be banned, I started looking for alternatives because I was pretty sure it was going to happen. I stumbled upon XHS by accident and about a month before everyone else. I was absolutely fucking blown away by China. It’s unlike we’ve been told in almost all respects…
I really came to realize that other countries are leaving us in their dust and it’s only a matter of time before we’re not the Apex predator anymore, and frankly I can hardly blame them.
Have you uh… actually been to China? Or talked to anyone from China (in real life)? I do both, quite often. Without fail, anyone with the means is actively trying to leave. And not in a “grass is greener” way. Those emigrating to America are fully aware of the political turmoil, they’d just rather be out before it’s not physically possible to leave.
It’s unlike we’ve been told in almost all respects…
Based on testimony from a demonstrably censored platform?
I’m not arguing for American superiority or that the vacuum won’t be easily filled by other countries. But that change isn’t automatically an upgrade.
Have you uh… actually been to China?
Yes. Almost a dozen times.
Or talked to anyone from China (in real life)?
Yes.
Without fail, anyone with the means is actively trying to leave.
Have you thought about why? Ask them to describe the US. They’ve been told an astonishing amount of propaganda about the US that is all incredibly untrue. I’m telling you. Actually talk to these people that you’re “in contact” with about how they view the US. They believe that every US Citizen is a millionaire. They think we have good healthcare. They think we all live in great houses. They think we all work a few hours a week and get paid a lot for it… It’s never ending. So I mean, yeah. If you get told there are places like that in the world of course you would want to leave your home country.
So you’ve been in the last few months since you learned these great things? Or was it before Covid, when people were physically caged into their apartments?
Was it only to the sterilized foreigner hotels on business trips? Or did you ever stay with locals who had to register your passport with the local police?
Were you able to spend physical currency or was everything already hooked up to official biometric identification (payments tied to socials tied to state id)?
I’m not asking to be confrontational, but the shiny foreigner facing China of yesteryear is nothing like the domestic atmosphere of China today. Their international digital presence is as carefully managed as their local platforms.
The locals I’ve met definitely have a positive view of the US, but things have gotten very dark very quickly under Xi. Think about why they could have started their emigration at any time but are choosing now.
So you’ve been in the last few months since you learned these great things? Or was it before Covid, when people were physically caged into their apartments?
I married a Chinese national and spend a month or two in China every year since.
Look man. You need to fucking stop. You look like an absolute douchebag.
My wife found XHS (aka RedNote) as well. I did not realize the extent of anti-China propaganda that I had inadvertently bought into, and like you, I was absolutely blown away.
Russia Loving Republicans. Trump is a Russian asset. Treat the US government like an enemy.
Do what they did to Russia, kick the US the fuck out and start calling it the G6. It was the G8 from 1997 to 2014, they can stand to lose another.
The US is literally trying to kickstart an economic depression in the US. Why the fuck would you want these guys in economics talks when they clearly understand FUCK ALL about economics? A US depression will fuck up the rest of the world’s economics as well, and that’s clearly the long-term goal.
If I recall correctly, it’s about destabilizing the Dollar and making their (China and Russia’s) financial system become the world standard…
It all comes down to money. It always does.
“The US” isnt doing anything. Trump and his scumbags are destroying everything.
When Trump does something, the party that controls House, Senate and Supreme court follows his marching orders, the richest and most influential individuals act as his lieutenants, almost half of the country agree with it, and the other half doesn’t resist or strike, then YES! THE US DOES THE THING!
The Nazis didn’t have 100% popular support in Germany. They didn’t have 50% active supporters. They had 10% party membership, even though non-members couldn’t enter a career in many fields, were harassed by authorities, and lots of people were entered into the party automatically.
Still, it was NAZI GERMANY.AND… within Nazi Germany, were real Germans who stood against Nazism, however they could…
there are a few books on that, “An Honorable Defeat” is one I’ve heard-of.
Oversimplification is anti-survival: it is just another ideology/prejudice/“religion”.
The US, the official US, is now Trump’s property, & Trump ( CURRENTLY ) is Putin’s property, & Musk’s.
I expect Trump to have a minor aneurism/stroke or something, which will remove empathy from him, completely.
( he’s fighting that personality-conversion, in my view )
But no matter how psychopathic/machiavellian/nihilist/sadistic the official US becomes, there’s good people there.
( remember that biblical thing, can’t remember who it was, perhaps Abraham,
who argued with G-D, that if there are good people there, then don’t destroy the place?
I think he was doing the wrong-selectivity: he should have been demanding that they, the good people,
be spared the destruction that G-D was about to toss on the evil…
& if it was the Sodom & Gomorrah story,
then as I’ve pointed-out before, if the angels visiting the good guy who lived there had been female angels,
& the gang-rapers trying to get in had been intending heterosexual-rape,
that would not, in any way, whatsoever, have made their intent non-evil.
It wasn’t their sexual-orientation, it was the gang-raping-angels, that made it abomination.
Anyways, back to the original message : )
Back on reddit I was permabanned from some communities, simply for posting in specific-other communities.
The Problem™ I had with that?
I’d been commenting in those other communities specifically to counter the abuse they were heaping on somebody.
So, I got judged to be one-of-the-abusers because of the venue I’d spoken in, which I’d spoken-in only to counter its abuse…
I’ve been gaslit all my life, & am fed-up with it.
Differentiate correctly, & don’t abuse the innocent, is one of the rules-of-life I live by, now.
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“The US” refers to the US government.
Nooooooo
There’s an Arabic saying that roughly translated goes something like this: Sins are wide and good deeds are narrow. The meaning is that when a large part of a group of people is sinful, just not being implicated in sin doesn’t protect you; you have to work to stop or you have no business trying to be excused from whatever punishment will come. In other words, you gotta work to stop the evil being done or you’re well within the moral blast radius. So… That’s what’s going on here; with this framework more than 99% of America is guilty.
I think the Dems are more guilty of being foolish, than of intentionally-accommodating “GEOTUS”…
Biden blocked Harris from campaigning until it was too-late, & … whatshername … Pelosi’s threat to destroy Biden’s campaign was the only thing which finally pried his hands off the opportunity…
They lived entirely-within Hopium.
They … mostly, or nearly-all, possibly-all, … aren’t going to survive the US Civil War Part2 which will erupt when it becomes enacted that there isn’t going to be any 2028 election, or sometime around then, anyways…
I don’t expect much of the population of this continent to survive the next decade…
& many have worked, hard, at preventing this…
The male-supremacists & the white-supremacists who voted against Harris, THEY are guilty, certainly…
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I mean, can’t we go back to the way that the Dems refused to see that Hillary was not popular, and how party leaders actively intervened to make sure that no one resembling an actual Dem (Bernie) got the nomination?
I think that’s really where the writing was on the wall - sabotage a popular candidate with the kind of populist support that we saw launch Trump into office, to platform someone who was probably one of the most hated women in America?
You could say that the first time Trump was elected. Not anymore.
I don’t know if anyone has noticed, but theyve been firing everyone in the government. The government is being dismantled.
I meant the “America isn’t doing it” part. They certainly are.
You’re missing the point.
I don’t think I am.
Then you simply didn’t understand, or are refusing to understand.
From this day forth he will be known as Trumputin.
I love it when you talk dirty
This just in, the known russian puppet, trump, is a russian puppet.
G6 it is then. After NATOTWO is set up
NATWO
2 NATO 2 FURIOUS
2 NATOs 1 Cup
NATOWO
NATUwU what’s this?
Is that a HIMARS in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?
Maybe it is time to modernise it
😍NA😝TO😱💯💯 no cap
I was really enjoying these Nat-alternatives and you had to ruin it.
You misspelled “enhance” <3
Maybe since it’s mostly just the northeast Atlantic now, it should be NEATO.
Canada and Greenland have most of the north covered even without the US, so the name still works.
Southwest from the European pov. SWATO.
Art class for the bourgeoisies, lab rats for the cat.
Real estate moguls, Chump Towers,
When the wind blows you can hear the windows go rat a tat rat a tat tat tat.Jimmy Hoffa in the Meadowlands, weighing down that union man.
Grab his ankles, stevedores,
Oh how those Jets do roar.Sky Pulaski Way!
But I couldn’t vote for Harris because that was a vote for genocide.
Coming from a country with ranked voting and more than 2 parties, this looks so ridiculous. It’s like the USA electoral system is designed to make people bicker amongst themselves about who is the lesser evil, while oligarchs take control.
Seems like you understand it just fine then.
Veritasium, on yt ( not a guy I recommend frequently ) has a vid on election-systems.
Approval-disapproval seems to be the sanest electing-system there is…
All the ranked-choice-systems logically have problems, though no-where near as bad as 1st-past-the-post idiocy.
Please, people, if you’re interested in the sanest voting-system possible, watch that video, & then organize to replace your system with the currently-best-option, which seems, from that vid, to be the approval/disapproval system.
( it makes the most-approved person win, and one can approve-of multiple different candidates, so the majority-of-voters get heard, no-matter-what, see? )
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What style of ranked voting does your country use?
Yeah that was some really really stupid shit people were saying.
To be fair, most Americans do fall for things pretty easily when all they have to do is literally nothing
Humans in general. Tell people that “doing nothing” is the moral action and they’ll sure as fuck do nothing, because it’s the path of least resistance.
In maybe the most important race of this country’s history, Harris couldn’t bring herself to denounce genocide and war crimes like a decent human being and instead chose to support a corrupt, fascist foreign nation that more closely resembles Nazi Germany than another country today.
Party loyalists tut-tut at the voters and learn exactly nothing, yet again.
Party loyalists tut-tut at the voters and learn exactly nothing, yet again.
The non-voters voted in Trump who is trying to be more fascist and corrupt than the other country you’re alluding to.
Nah, the Democrats did that.
The democrats who voted surprisingly voted for Harris so I don’t know what you’re on about.
The Democrats politicians who didn’t put Trump away and refuses to let go of their billionaire money for the sake of most important election the US is facing yet are the ones who voted Trump in. Blaming the non-voters is just playing into the oligarch’s hand.
In our system the votes get counted to figure out who won so the non-voters said they are okay with what’s happening.
Someone take that orange fuck out, please.
Biggest disappointment in the last year was that dufus missing his big fat head from only 150yds.
2". That’s all we needed. Even small hands Trump knows what two inches looks like, it’s basically nothing. So damn close.
Will nobody rid us of this turbulent golfer?
Will no one rid us of this turbulent p
riest?
You are better than that. Don’t stoop to their level or you become like them.
I’ve always wondered why so many people peacefully marched into the trains, trucks, and death camps, then I see the sheer amount of people like you who say that and remember why. Maybe it’s a personality thing, some of us who are faced with annihalation vs annihalation with a fight, we choose the latter. Most people will just take annihalation peacefully out of fear or laziness.
If you can shoot Hitler in 1937, would you think it would be a bad idea?
Could you kill baby Hitler?
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