Parks & Recreation S5E1 “Ms. Knope Goes to Washington”

    • Miles O'Brien@startrek.website
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      5 days ago

      I have changed my opinion from “Janeway did nothing wrong” to “Janeway did the right thing”

      It’s a subtle, but important, distinction.

    • cm0002@lemmy.world
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      5 days ago

      Agreed, the other choice would have resulted in the loss of two individuals with very important individual functions that couldn’t realistically be compressed down to one person when they were stranded

      The only other option that they could have done was some sort of transporter cloning shenanigans, cloning Tuvix and then separating the “original”. But that comes with a whole separate set of ethical implications on its own

      • shyguyblue@lemmy.world
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        4 days ago

        Oh hell, imagine if they had “Rikered” Tuvix, then had all three trapped on a shuttle together. Tuvok would murder them both

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          4 days ago

          I think Tuvok probably had security clearances that might have been problematic to duplicate. Not that that would stop Janeway. I think it just means Tuvix would end up joining Section 31 after they get back to Earth

    • Sundray@lemmus.org
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      4 days ago

      It’s an ethical morass with no “correct” answer, unless there was some way to preserve three distinct sentient entities. Janeway had to make a choice and all the choices were bad.

      • thiseggowaffles@lemmy.zip
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        14 hours ago

        Not really. There is a correct choice. This is the equivalent of if you have two people dying who need transplants, so let’s murder someone to harvest their organs so the other two can live. What Janeway did was morally bankrupt, and the only person on that crew with any semblance of morality was The Doctor.

  • Prehensile_cloaca @lemm.ee
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    4 days ago

    Janeway was the worst captain of the series. Not just for Tuvix, but for capitulating to her ego and stomping the ethos of Starfleet simply because “challenges.”

    It’s like the writers wanted us to dislike her.

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      3 days ago

      My understanding is that there were two different visions of Janeway that never got reconciled. Because of it, she comes off as bipolar in the series.