• mendiCAN [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    i can’t fault the effort i guess, but my vibes are tingling n saying this is an absolutely wasted effort. Tying environmental damage to monetary damage in order to “hold polluters accountable” tells me that the absolute best that could happen is hefty fines levied at these companies. Fines that would then be fought in court for decades. meanwhile, nothing would change.

    and that’s the “realistic” best case scenario brought to us by recent history.

    i figure if a study is gonna try to put a “value” to something like this, when common sense tells us nothing will be done regardless? they should measure the “cost” to humanity. In lives, not monetary damage. Nothing will change anyway, so i would appreciate a study buildin a case for criminal charges.

    TLDR: it isnt that criminal charges are more or less likely —as neither are— but at least a study building a criminal case would feel less fuckin cynical than this.

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      fines could work if they actually make continuing to pollute unprofitable and the fine money funds a bunch of remediation that isn’t profitable…

      ok, so fines aren’t going to work, who wants to play minecraft?

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        fines could work if they actually make continuing to pollute unprofitable

        right, i agree with ya. I’m just saying with full-throated confidence that even if they were levied? They definitely won’t do that. not what we’ve seen, when fines actually were levied.

        So like, my opinion is: if they are gonna do a study assigning a specific amount of damage; but it’s just putting a giant number onta what everyone who’s paying attention already knows?

        May as well put it in terms that matter to those folks like you n me, the only ones who actually give a shit.

        fuck the moneymen, they don’t care, so couch study terms in real numbers for the folks that do. feel me?