I guess to be fair I was never really a stickler for any particular method; I’m just a lot more open to a lot of them.
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lol is this community for armed revolutionary liberalism? are y’all ready to put your life down to increase cop budgets in dem cities?
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car bombs for DEI (actually based)
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Hands off NATO!
lmao no notes
When the genocidal politicians are hurting other people
When the genocidal politicians are hurting me
Shut up liberal.
Someone on a democrat community is calling a hexbear poster a liberal?
Only hexberians and maybe lemmygrad is allowed to call other hexberians liberals
to be fair you’re on the democrat community as well.
Ohhh, sick burn bro.
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I mean, to anyone at hexbear it is.
The rise of fascism is the same as milquetoast centrism
- you, a fucking idiot
Biden sending Israel bombs knowing they would flatten entire residential blocks full of families: milquetoast centrism
I love when politics are just normal and boring so liberals like you can just go to brunch and watch TV without thinking about the world system that’s necessary to sustain your treats.
Biden sucked, the dems suck, but there is a fucking difference.
Yeah there’s a difference, but you are being tricked into fighting against your own interests and the interests of all the victims of imperialism when you make your political struggle the struggle for putting people like Biden in power. You will never fix the problem by putting another Biden in power, or even a Bernie, because the problem is structural and it’s called capitalism.
I’m being tricked? because I called out a shitty opinion? Takes a real true believer to see this much based on a comment on moral equivalency. This dude made a shit opinion. That doesn’t mean I’m a fucking “vote blue no matter who” dickhead. Slow your roll.
The thing is, I do agree with the moral equivalence. Biden committed genocide. Trump is committing genocide. Biden set up Trump to do all the right wing cultural stuff by never actually wielding power and doing things like stacking the courts, codifying Roe v Wade, etc. Biden set Trump up for the push on immigration with his own rampant deportation program, failing to shut down Gitmo, non-action on legalizing drugs, and ramping up of police budgets under his admin.
There’s clear continuity of agenda between the admins. I don’t deny that there’s a difference, but if you think the difference is significant enough that your political calculus is anywhere in the realm of “we need a Democrat again but good” then you need to read Lenin’s Bourgeois and Proletarian Democracy.
Yes there is, dems are the part of the ratchet that stops things from swinging back further left. The two party system is entirely broken. But being complicit is very different from being eager. Right now, more Palestinians are dead then could have been. I’d prefer no dead palestinians, but given thats not on the table right now I will take less genocide. Anything that results in less dead innocents.
You literally called active support for fascist genocide “milquetoast”. Seems a pretty fair assumption.
jesus another hexbear user who has issues with reading comprehension. fuck me. one more reply then you are my fourth block.
the current administration is worse for Palestine than the previous (also hostile to Palestine) administration.
I’m talking about ‘normal’ shitty colonialism making milquetoast excuses, an administration who are bad but in the same way every other administration in US living history, versus the current eager and loud administration who delight and revel in the hatred, and actively encourage the visible and very real acceleration of the genocide against the innocent Palestinian population.
Both are bad, I hate that those are the choices. But any sane person interested in the actual welfare of the living people who are being terrorised and systematically murdered by the hideous apartheid regime that is isreal, would understand that less harm is better than more harm.
Honestly, in a world full of right wing hatred, the stripping of minority rights and open bigotry, you think someone who actually cares would spend their time attacking the people advocating for that rather than bickering with someone whom they think is supporting Palestine the wrong way.
Fucking pathetic. I’m embarrassed for you, and all of your peanut gallery friends.
One more reply, then I’m done.
Tell that to the Palestinians
another hexbear user who cant fucking read. To be absolutely fucking clear: I care about Palestinians, I believe that both sides of the american political standard are bad for Palestinians. I ALSO believe that one side is worse for Palestinians than the other. I am advocating on behalf of the Palestinians by advocating for the less harmful of the two.
You, on the other hand, couldn’t care lass about anyone and seem to be driven by ideological purity. Because the real world scares you. Because you are a coward. Because you want to feel correct by ignoring reality. You are of no use to anyone.
Now my fifth or sixth hexbear block. Seriously, you do your instance so much damage with your dumbass pontificating. Don’t reply, I wont see it. Be a better person.
I am advocating on behalf of the Palestinians by advocating for the less harmful of the two.
You’re advocating for the ones who started this most deadly iteration of the genocide and calling them “less harmful.”
You, on the other hand, couldn’t care lass about anyone and seem to be driven by ideological purity.
Right, which is why on hexbear we have been giving money (that many of us don’t have enough of to pay rent and buy food) and real material support directly to Palestinians as well as having actual Palestinian posters. While communists actually do things that actually help people in the real world, liberals are the ones who pretend to care oh ever so much while doing nothing of any material value, and in fact supporting the people and the party that set the genocide on it’s course.
Because the real world scares you. Because you are a coward. Because you want to feel correct by ignoring reality. You are of no use to anyone.
And here’s where the “Every Accusation is a Confession” comes in full force! Every single point, so revealing.
Now my fifth or sixth hexbear block.
And as an example of the Every Accusation a Confession principle of the liberal modus operandi, I will go ahead and point out the same thing Dirt_Owl did: “This has to be a bit. He called me a coward while running away and blocking lmao.” But much more than just that, see how the liberal accuses Dirt_Owl of cowardice, but then goes and does the cowardly thing? See how the liberal accuses Dirt_Owl of ignoring reality, while plugging their own ears and saying “lahlahlah I can’t heeeear you!” See how the liberal accuses Dirt_Owl of being afraid of the world while themselves refusing to even entertain a perspective that challenges their own? See how the liberal says Dirt_Owl is “of no use to anyone” as a strange out-of-nowhere insult, when it is widely known that liberals are seen by people across the "political spectrum* as being useless? They just can’t help but tell on themselves with every little “gotcha” or snide insult they try to use against others.
I ALSO believe that one side is worse for Palestinians than the other.
I mean we could talk about the liberal application of belief when talking about verifiable facts but I’m just gonna point out you’re completely wrong, the side you believe is better did literally nothing to stop Israel’s genocide.
jesus christ, I said the word ‘believe’ so you latched on to that, then said the same shit I’ve dealt with by all your twat friends; I’ve already replied to you, you just didn’t fucking read it. Another hexbear block, good job ruining your instances reputation dickhead.
I said the word ‘believe’
Yes, maybe you should analyse why you said that
good job ruining your instances reputation
I was gonna join Hexbear because I like their takes on Juche, but I hear Dave thinks they aren’t acting in good faith.
This has to be a bit. He called me a coward while running away and blocking lmao.
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fuck off memelord.
Shoot me with your gun
dont have one.
Then you’re a very poorly armed democrat
desperate for attention.
Is your favourite (Daveourite) game Davetona USA for the Sega Saturn circa 1995?
What rise? The country has been fascist since before anyone here was born. Those fascists have been enabled by people like you cheering on politicians while they put people in concentration camps at the border, strip away basic rights such as abortion while never even allowing others like healthcare, and outright commit genocide. Be honest with yourself: you don’t hate Trump because he’s a fascist, you hate him because he’s not a “polite” fascist.
The rise of fascism is the same as milquetoast centrism because milquetoast is fascism ackchually
- you, a fucking idiot
Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians were systematically killed under the watch of the most recent Democrat you silly goose.
and the meat grinder got faster after the other guys got in you stupid cunt :D
That’s just not true. Biden was giving Israel unconditional support. Trump is currently giving them unconditional support after the ceasefire. The meatgrinder doesn’t get any faster. There is no more support the Zionists could even physically be given.
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fuck me, I know Biden was a war criminal piece of shit, but fuck COME ON. there is a difference. I’m not disagreeing that the left in america is an embarrassment, but it is absolutely not better now than it would have been. this isn’t hard, unless you care less about lives than your bespoke political stance.
Ah so hundreds of thousands of systemic killings is milquetoast? You goofball.
compared to whats happening now it is. I want the system to burn just as much as you do, if not more. But I would prefer less genocide to more genocide. because there IS a difference. I swear, you guys are deliberately obtuse.
First slur dropped
what slur?
There is a reason the rest of the world hates American you know
Yep, I also am not a big fan. But I measure my anger because I want to work towards a better future. I am sure bleating about how the world could be better is also fun tho, if a little directionless.
How are you working towards a better future?
They voted and then argued on the internet.
not gonna dox myself. go away :D
Genocidal politicians are milquetoast centrism (which is good)
- you, a fucking liberal fool
oh look another hexbear with reading comprehension problems. fuck me, blocked, be a better person for fuck sake, you are no use to anyone like this.
Here’s the thing. Trump is just a poster boy. The real problems will continue long after he’s dead. There will be further assholes. Trump is a puppet. The string puller will last on.
We need to address the core root, not the symptoms.
I don’t disagree, but Trump is definitely a unifying figure for MAGA. Hopefully when he’s gone there will be in-fighting among different MAGA factions trying to enact their own agendas and will cause fragmentation and irrelevance for many of them.
I can see that. Vance will be one. DeSantos will be another. Musk might even get in on it.
If I were Hillary Clinton, I’d just troll them, and run as a republican.
Remember that Hillary and Bill told Trump to run, believing he would be easy to defeat. They donated to his campaign in 2016
I agree. I think Trump’s real purpose is to just take the heat for a lot of unpopular policies and he’s just too dumb and narcissistic to realize it.
It will be interesting to see how MAGA changes after he’s gone.
He is like a pustule. The disease is underneath and around the area but squeezing it empty will be a huge relief and afterward the healing will accelerate
It’s become very apparent that the puppet poster-boy is a very critical piece to the puzzle, and for some fucking reason, he’s an effective one.
The rot will definitely still be there, but the power vacuum Trump will leave behind is going to massive. Not only that, but a lot of Republicans are just spineless opportunists and not hardcore ideologues, and they may see it as an opportunity to push back against the nutjobs who have taken over the party.
If that’s true, that’s okay. You just get rid of puppets until they run out.
Not a viable long term strategy unfortunately. European anarchist found that out the hard way
which ones did they get rid of?
A lot, but notable political figures are Archduke Franz Ferdinand, Tsar Alexander II, Sadi Carnot (president of France), Antonio Cánovas del Castillo (Spanish prime minister), Empress Elisabeth of Austria-Hungary, King Umberto of Italy, U.S. President William Mckinley (anarchism debated here), King Carlos I of Portugal, Spanish Prime Minister Josè Canalejas, and King George I of Greece. All within roughly 60 years. They also killed plenty of unnamed bourgeois throughout the years.
those are not even from the same country. it’s unrelated incidents.
Also, these are all able to be traced back to anarchist movements? This is the first I’m ever hearing that.
Not all, but some.
I wouldn’t call any of them a puppet of a string puller who would just install the next, even if we’d say the puppeteer is an elite group. But it’s a question of definition where a shadow government ends and a regular political party starts.
Both. Let’s address both. Like a proper system of healthcare would.
we are democrats. we are legion. we do not forgive (when republicans are in office). we do not forget (when republicans are in office). expect us (when republicans are in office).
Democrats ptui are paid just enough to be the ineffective token opposition and effective collaborators to the Rich 1%
The whole two party system needs to be replaced.
It’s absolutely nowhere in the Constitution, but for whatever reason (money!) it’s persisted.
The Greens had a little going in the early 2000s but made the mistake of going national before establishing a base in local and state legislatures.
Instead the Greens were branded as “spoilers” for handing Dubya Bush the presidency, and failed to gain traction since.
Capitalism needs to go
Oh my, we have our very own CIA agent assigned to our little site :3
You would think the CIA would have done it for us by now, what with Trump singlehandedly destroying US hegemony.
At least you’re not quoting a fascist this time.
Sometimes even a fascist speaks the truth. CONTEXT MATTERS
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Under no circumstances do you gotta hand it to em
Lol. Lmao even.
you know, usually it takes at least 3 or 4 hexbear replies before the libs openly scream “i’m with the fascists” but good lord, you were just itching for an excuse to fling the mask off, weren’t you?Just because a fascist might sometimes be capable of being a broken clock, that doesn’t mean one should ever be quoted or given any kind of “credit” for their rare broken-clock take. Yes, context absolutely does matter, and in the case where the context includes fascism, that itself informs us that we should be especially careful the fascist receives no praise or endorsement of any kind. It really is not hard to make sure you never hand it to them.
You do not in fact, have to “hand it to” the broken clock.
bruh
scratch a liberal…man wtfwhat
Oh, you mean like this guy:
CONTEXT MATTERS
You mean like the fact that they’re a fascist and deliberately speaking in half-truths to create a distorted narrative?
For instance, suppose I told you that this quote was written decades ago and predicted the current Trump administration:
CW: quote from fascist
In economics he undermines the states until the social enterprises which have become unprofitable are taken from the state and subjected to his financial control.
I wouldn’t actually do that though, because this is a cherry-picked excerpt from Adolf Hitler’s Mein Kampf. Context like the fact that it was literally Adolf Hitler saying something antisemitic matters.
Be the change You want to see in the world.
This thread is an example of why I’m happy for hexbear
Hexbear?
Your lemmy instance probably defederates from them, so you don’t see their comments. They are a bunch of communists that many others don’t care for and pre-emptively disconnect from.
Personally, I appreciate their perspective and generally am glad to see the discourse.
Maybe, I am extremely new to Lemmy so I didn’t know if that was a place, thing, or person.
So are/is hexbear a communist fourm, or a communist group?
As far as I know, hexbear.net is a similar Lemmy instance same as midwest.social (yours) or lemmy.sdf.org (mine). Hexbear has a general focus of communism – though that feels very reductive and I don’t mean leave it at that, I just don’t have the skill or care to do any better.
Due to various groups (instances) politics, they are often disconnected-from (defederated).
I don’t know if I did a good or bad job explaining this cuz I’m a little drunk, but I hope it’s been at least a little bit helpful
Seems like you did a pretty good job, that makes sense. Thank you!
So are you gonna shoot him or what? Trump “needs to go” and you’re armed Democrats. Help me out here.
It is illegal to say “I want to kill the president of the United States of America”
Wait wait wait
Isn’t the whole reason you Americans like guns so much is so you and do that exact thing you can’t say?
Don’t make them think. You know it hurts their heads.
No he’s right, I just don’t want SS agents to visit me.
“He who saves his country does not violate any law.”
Who said that, Gobbels during the Holocaust?
Close! Herr Trump
If you feel this way about trump and didn’t feel this way about biden then you don’t care about fascism you care about your 401k
My drop shipping business has been fatally compromised by the dang Cheeto. This cannot stand.
Our very own fed ❤️
They are watching us all.
Anyone got information on this?
Then organize.
