So I have two kids, 11 and 14, and I think they’re actually older than any of the other kids that other users on this website might have. Like a good communist, I made sure to brainwash my children when they were young, and I even homeschooled them for the first three years of the pandemic. Eventually they asked to go back to school and I couldn’t really stop them. They’ve actually had a great time there, they’re doing really well and they seem very popular, but especially my older kid has been having such a good time that he started doubting that America was bad, and has just kind of been drifting into liberalism, although I could still get him to say cool things like free Palestine, which liberals won’t usually say. He also developed a serious interest in sports, sadly just watching rather than playing, and I don’t know where that comes from because neither of his parents are really interested in watching sports, but seemingly it’s what everyone at his school loves. He was also repeating a lot of the usual liberal nonsense to me about China and the Soviet Union.

Anyway, over the last couple of weeks he’s become pretty obsessed with Epstein, and has been sending me lots of TikTok videos about the usual Epstein-related things, and yesterday he just suddenly told me that ”maybe the commies are the good guys because at least they aren’t eating children.” He stopped arguing with me about China and the Soviet Union, and seems slightly more interested in getting a more left perspective on these and other similar subjects. I don’t know how long this will last, but it’s just a minor hopeful sign. I know that most liberals and conservatives are just kind of doing their best to focus only on how Epstein implicates their enemies, rather than the system itself, but some people at least might be shaken out of the capitalist ideological paradigm.

  • hellinkilla [they/them, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    A child sending their parent IMs about pedophiles is considered a moment of wholesome family connection. I am not critiquing OP. I just draw attention to the situation of the world. When I was 14 I was trying to fool my parents into thinking I didn’t know what sex was, because I thought I’d be in trouble if they found out I knew. My parents were extremely lib.

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      I will simply say: “do not worry, son. I know sex is bourgeois decadence. Your were brought into this world by the spirit of Stalin, and delivered to our doorstep whilst we gazed upon the red star”

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      My kids and I talk as much in one day as my parents and I did for an entire year. And my parents were not terrible parents.

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    I’ve been learning to temper myself whenever we talk about politics with my friends

    This time around I’m instead trying to catch up with what my friends read in the past 4 hours

    I’ve had to held out with the "I told you so"s just to make sure no one’s caught in a antisemitic conspiracy

    Mossad isn’t making it easy

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    I don’t think any of that shit matters.

    I think what matters most is learning the function of capitalism, how it works, workers and bougies, and how bougies make their money by exploiting workers.

    A real and actual understanding of how the system works leads to people who don’t become bougies correctly analysing its problems by themselves once they get real workplace experience.

    The vast majority of people don’t have this education. If you make sure they understand how the system works they will go with whatever their class interests are. This is even more true right now as capitalism is in obvious decline and things will only get worse.

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    I’d love to know some of your experiences with brainwashing your children when they were younger. I think I’m doing an okay job. But the only foundational text my kids have are The Giving Tree and The Rainbow Fish. Not sure they’re ready for The State and Revolution just yet.

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      I read my kids The Wild Washer Women a while ago and I was surprised how revolutionary it was. These women stage a peasant revolt, beat up law enforcement, establish their own agency by marrying who they want, and establish an anarchist commune in the woods.

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      The Earthsea series is pretty great. Maybe a little scary in places, but lots of good themes and viewpoints to bootstrap little brains with.

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      I’m not the perfect parent but I think spending time with your kids, listening to them, treating them like human beings, talking with them, and encouraging their interests is brainwashing enough. They liked reading even adult history books with me when they grew out of their toddler years. My younger kid was really into My Brother’s Road, a totally fascinating biography of Monte Melkonian. I always talk about marxist shit with them whenever I get the chance.

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        I’m not the perfect parent but I think spending time with your kids, listening to them, treating them like human beings, talking with them, and encouraging their interests is brainwashing enough.

        This is beautiful. I think you’re a wonderful parent by the mere fact your view your children as people with their own thoughts and feelings and aspirations.

        I always talk about marxist shit with them whenever I get the chance.

        I’m really curious about this! My partner and I always encourage our kids to thank workers and connect their possessions with the different people who made them. We do/say other things too to try to raise their class consciousness, but I’d love to know what y’all might have said when your kids were younger, if you won’t mind sharing.

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    It’s been a while but I don’t think I would have even been capable of understanding politics as a teen/preteen.

    Is it a function of the world today being more connected and teens having more chance to see political stuff accidentally?

    Were a lot of you other olds politically engaged at such a young age and I’m just a product of the privilege of not having to think about politics?

    Could also be that I only cared about starcraft broodwar and diablo 2 at the time

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      I think we’re about the same age. I became interested in politics around the eighth grade when W. stole the election. A lot was going down around that time. My family, especially my dad, was also very lib and talked about politics all the time.

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      One of the aims of capital with the destruction of proletarian culture from the late 1800s onwards was to destroy the close ties within the working class friend and family groups

      They did this most obviously by literally bulldozing their neighbourhoods, but schools to seperate children from worker parents to indoctrinate them, providing treats to focus on instead and instilling middle class manners (“dont talk about politics at the dinner table, dont ask a man his wage etc”) were also key parts of this

      As empire implodes and treats dry up, reproletarianization proceeds and politics returns to children and family

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    maybe the commies are the good guys because at least they aren’t eating children

    Can we make your kid’s quote a tagline?

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    Mine are 9th/10th graders. They both took part in a walk out over ICE behavior yesterday. I am proud of my kids. They did something of their own volition and I couldn’t be happier. I hope to see my children have better politics than their liberal dad.

    It’s a good feeling to see your kids get it, isn’t it?

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    Happy to hear it.

    Based on my experience in counter strike casual lobbies, the generic Nazi gamers are tripling down on this all being a Jewish conspiracy to destroy the white man, somehow

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    He was also repeating a lot of the usual liberal nonsense to me about China and the Soviet Union.

    i don’t know how you can tolerate that like I’d be locking the kid in a room with nothing but the marxist library at that point