• birdcat@lemmy.ml
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    12 days ago

    I honestly thought this whole color revolution thing might be going somewhere, but wtf was even the thinking here?

    bombing civilians in their homes, murdering hundreds of little girls in school, neutralizing immortalizing khamenei, terrorizing and demonizing the entire country… and then 1 second after the last bomb was bombed, millions will rush to the streets to celebrate and proudly proclaim, “yay, those were my people and my values, lets goo!” and topple the evil regime cuz its evil👌

    how to even come up with this?

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        I’ve been telling libs IRL this weekend “imagine if Iran killed Trump” in regards to the Khamenei murder and so far the response has been universally “damn I wish” which even surprised me. So what I’m taking from this is don’t hold back Iran, the American people are crying for freedom and liberation from their epstein occupied government

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      and then 1 second after the last bomb was bombed, millions will rush to the streets to celebrate and proudly proclaim, “yay, those were my people and my values, lets goo!” and topple the evil regime cuz its evil👌 the chosen puppet appears and says “now I’m in charge or the bombing continues! Also btw I gave away the oil already.” and everyone says “yeah ok that sounds fair to us”

      It’s only slightly less stupid

    • WasteTime [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      Literally LotR at the end of the third movie with the orcs running around when Sauron is destroyed.

      I resist to think that those in charge of these operations are really smoking what they sell, though. They hope to destabilize the region, mess with Asian countries’ projects of economic development and have another opportunity to sell weapons so stocks go up.

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        There’s no way we could be the baddies — we have freedom and democracy and all that is good and they have illiberalism and authoritarianism and all that is evil! That leaves two options: either the country is being hypnotized by the evil authoritarian dictator, or everyone down to the last baby is ontologically evil! hitler-detector

        They hope to destabilize the region, mess with Asian countries’ projects of economic development and have another opportunity to sell weapons so stocks go up.

        Imperial necromancy causes these ghouls to live unnaturally longer for every martyr they kill to make line go up

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      It’s like all the people on Fallout: New Vegas boards who are like “How come nothing happens aside from dialogue changes when you kill Caesar?”

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    Say, I have been wondering something for a while; we always say that libs only ever listen to propaganda outlets and CIA sources to form their opinions.

    How is it that when these same sources say something negative about the west, that we can just believe them?

    I am scared of false optimism and really don’t want to fall for some trap of them making us think that the US is a “paper tiger” and that the reality is actually that they purposefully make themselves seem weak and disorganised while making tactical minor gains or something.

    Can someone help me out here? I am just not educated enough to be able to take news like this and place it into its correct geopolitical context.

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      Realistically we should be skeptical of anything being published in Reuters, but there are explanations for how embarrassing gossip can leak to the press. Leaks can come from disgruntled employees who are trying to embarrass their superiors, competing factions within the state looking to weaken their rivals, and even the occasional attack of good conscience that government workers can sometimes suffer when the contradictions are high enough.

      But, ultimately, we don’t really know what’s going on. Hope for the best, assume the worst, etc etc.

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        Okay, that helped me put it into a better perspective I think. We just heard a lot of these news and (ex-)CIA members talking about the upcoming downfall of the US that I got a bit suspicious if we aren’t falling for their propaganda just because they are saying things that we like.

        Thank you!

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.mlOP
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      The way I look at it, what you have to generally be cognizant of is the spin western media puts into their coverage. It’s not that they outright lie and fabricate things, but rather the framing they use, the facts they omit, and so on. The problem with libs is that they don’t analyze what they read critically, and they’re missing the broader context for the events being covered, which leads them to buy into the narrative being sold.

      We can read the same sources, but we are also able to spot the spin, and contextualize them using other sources, history, and our understanding of the material conditions.

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      Because bias has a “direction” of sort. American media won’t intentionally make a lie that makes the US looks bad because they are pro-US. As for lying to make enemies underestimate them, that’s just not how the US operate. They won’t try to make their enemy think they are weaker than they truly are because their strategy is precisely the opposite: the US spent a lot of resources on convincing the world that they are the most powerful with the deadliest weapons, that they can effectively wage war everywhere. They want their enemies to be intimidated into submission.