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    R6S doesnt work in windows either (if virtualized).

    Since when did GTAO stopped working on linux tho? Did it introduce an anticheat as well?

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    Unpopular opinion: these memes always have ‘I am very smart’ energy on Lemmy. The issue is that these companies should support Linux not that your personal taste in video games means it’s a good thing that they don’t.

    I don’t play any of these particular games but I have other software that doesn’t run on Linux without considerable effort. So I haven’t switched. My best friend has switched and made the changes necessary and is forever troubleshooting issues.

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      It’s a meme. Old one, too.

      Gatekeeping “uhmm actually I only play artisanal games delivered exclusively to a single person” is bad and must be spoken out against. And Lemmy sucks on that front.

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      No, no, no - this is all wrong. I don’t consider you a person unless you self-flagellate at the terminal daily, compiling from source in dependency hell while being cleansed by the vim fires at the altar of Tux.

      This species of Linux user reminds me quite a lot of Catholics.

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        You’re shadowboxing with a nonexistent Linux user. People do that kind of stuff as a hobby, not for status. Most people who are into that sort of thing are too asocial to use any social capital they might have anyway.

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        I read that as “self-felate” and was impressed and horrified that people were that flexible while using the terminal.

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        Lol, is that what you tell yourself every day to justify staying with Windows? Do you convince yourself by imagining Linux users suffering?

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            And I don’t use the terminal every day and install apps from the application manager.

            If you have chosen a distro that forces you to use the terminal or install apps from source code, that’s your choice, not a condition for all Linux users.

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              You’re clearly not who I’m talking about then.

              I’ve used various distros as daily drivers for over 20 years. Debian-based is comfy for me. So is the terminal, but I’ll use a gui if it suits the situation. If I need a software package I install it in whatever way works, whether that’s building from source and fighting through dependencies, composing a docker image, unpacking a static .deb or clicking ‘install’ on flat hub. I’m aware of the differences, and issues folks have, and I have my own preferences as well, but I mostly just don’t care. It’s all free (gratis) software, which I’m glad even exists. If it’s truly libre, even better, I’m all about that. Given 2 functionally equivalent packages I’ll always pick the most libre one. At the end of the day, I don’t feel the need to run an ideologically pristine system. I need it to work.

              I clearly touched a nerve, lol, but there’s no need to get defensive.

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      I agree with you that these memes are a little silly, but I also agree with the overall point that it’s actually good that these games don’t run on Linux. It has nothing to do with my personal taste in these games though, and everything to do with privacy violations via kernel-level anticheats, and getting people addicted via dark patterns like microtransactions, gacha, and FOMO-inducing battlepasses.

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        I built a computer for my uncle and his kids and installed Linux on it. My cousin wanted to play Fortnite, and I tried to pitch it to him as a feature instead of a bug. But a couple weekends ago, I caved and installed dang Windows 11 for him.

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          You caved to the megacorps immense pressure on kids to recruit and devulge their friends and peers desires so that the hypercapitalist pedo lords can Harvest them D: with knowledge that this goes on? Based.

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            I realized that I’m not going to win him over by being a jerk about it. Sometimes, all you can do is give people the space to come to the right conclusion themselves.

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      My particular taste in video games is that they are not predating on my kernel bitch whatafuck is wrong with you they should not be allowed to do that

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        Pre dating? Can’t go somewhere and have fun? Is that a crime now?

        Back in my day™ you could go somewhere, have fun and possibly hook up with someone from that thing years later. The lesbians are still doing it. But noooooo you zoomers ruined everything!

        Leave your kernel alone!

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      I don’t play any of these particular games but I have other software that doesn’t run on Linux without considerable effort.

      Anything that isn’t a game can typically be run on a virtual machine.

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        So, the software that runs the features on my mouse and headset run on a VM. Then I play the games in the base OS with those features like software driven surround sound?

        This is actually similar to the situation I came across with my friend. “Everything works 100% it’s crazy!” Sweet! How’d you get the customisable mouse buttons working? (He has the same mouse as me) “There are extra mouse buttons? Oh, there are! I never noticed. No, they don’t work anymore”. 😑

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          So it’s not software that doesn’t work but hardware that’s weird then? Sure, makes sense.

          Next time you buy hardware look it up. Once you’re on stuff that’ll work in Linux you should be able to jump over easily then.

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            So it’s not software that doesn’t work but hardware that’s weird then? Sure, makes sense.

            It’s a gaming mouse (I’m guessing you’re unfamiliar) with customisable buttons. The buttons work best with the software and the software doesn’t work natively on Linux, as previously mentioned.

            I wish Linux was seamlessly transitionable but you seem to be saying that I should change to suit Linux. The “you’re holding it wrong” of open source software.

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              The “you’re holding it wrong” of open source software.

              Eh, not really dude. Linux cannot possibly account for each and every unique hardware combination that is put to market – some of which are being invented as I type this sentence.

              Some hardware is written with firmware that falls outside of standards and specs and some hardware producers are actively hostile to people providing support for their hardware on alternative platforms. Computer hardware and peripherals are a huge market with lots of players. I’m saying if Linux support is important to you, then make it part of your evaluation criteria when you buy new hardware. Or don’t if it isn’t.

              Linux doesn’t have significant enough consumer market share to pressure hardware manufacturers into providing support for them, and it also is a free operating system – not one helmed by a massive multi-national corporation that can use billions of dollars to pressure hardware manufacturers into following their whims.

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          Of course they work just disassemble the Windows exe and find the addresses and break free from bloat

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    The source code for rainbow 6 is probably in the wild now from the christmas mongo hack. It may be fixable. Maybe, it’s development was fraught, that code might be a nightmare.

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    jokes on you, i only play video games that is made by a atleast “Decent” company,not made in a slopware engine like Unity,unreal?(the engine isnt bad itself its just the company,also includes the middle ware it uses if the middle ware is also usable by free software too,made by a company with good track record or heavily modified),doesnt do kernel level anticheat,moddable in some way.

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      Unreal - the engine - has fallen from grace. Not just due to all the slop produced with it, but because it’s horribly overengineered.

      Nowadays it’s rate to come by with an engine that is purpose built. Now each and every engine must account for most popular game genres at the moment, that could be done with them.

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        That artifact factory, full of ghosting and stutters is overengineered? I swear Unreal 5 games only looks good when absolutely everything stays still…

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        i see, and never knew Unreal was horribly overengineered.(maybe due to graphics?)

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          It’s used for 2d/3d animation, modelling, live events, broadcasting, virtual architecture, simulation, gaming, and probably many I’m not even aware of.

          It’s designed to be modular and is open source (source available with a share-alike license).

          One common thing that even Epic comments on is how the default UI is meant to show you how it works but many games don’t even change it.

          If you’re making a game then you should turn off all the modules you aren’t using so it doesn’t ship with your game.

          If you’re loading data in then you should load it on a separate thread but many use the game thread and it results in people with low IQ thinking it’s the engine’s fault.

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            i never said the engine was bad,but the only problem is the company (Epic Games).

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                ohh i see, i thought you where explaining the good stuff about the engine because i said something bad about it.

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          Wouldn’t be that bad, but it’s a multiple decades old engine. In fact, it’s first version even had software rendering for PCs without 3D accelerators.

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    I know a lot of you don’t care if these games run or not, but really does suck they don’t. I’ve talked to quite a few people that wouldn’t switch to Linux because X game doesn’t run on it.

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      Yeah this is only a win if you don’t play those games. Unfortunately these games are intensely popular and the lack of compatibility stunts the popularity of Linux. I expect there is a similar anti-meme of this list titled “why I’ll never install Linux”

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      Mechwarrior 2 Titanium trilogy, arguably the best games EVER MADE (fight me, wetnose) doesn’t really run on anything beyond Windows 2000. I simply refuse to update to any OS that doesn’t retain the functionality of my games.

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          Because I don’t really run Windows 2000 on my main machine. It was sarcasm.

          Plus… Running mint on my main, and I’ve tried a couple of emulators and VMs to try to run MW2 and none of them do a good job of it, especially if you want to use a controller or joystick. Frankly, If I had a real heavy hankering for my vintage games, I’d just build an airgapped legacy system specifically for running that game.

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      the only times i’ve had trouble playing a game on linux are when the developer specifically fucks with it so it won’t run on linux. the main reason for that is kernel-level anticheat software, which, from what i’ve heard, doesn’t really help with cheating much anyways. my computer is my computer, i don’t need microsoft or some game company going into my kernel. can’t wait for some drm company to get hacked and have windows gamers up in arms because they got ransomewared.

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        I think one of the games got hacked via their anticheat and we’re able to mess around with other players. I don’t remember which one it was though. I don’t play any of these games so they all blend together for me

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      Agreed, I switched my gaming rig to Linux for 6 months and was so excited to get things working. Went back to windows on it because I kept going to play with friends, and would often have to mess with Proton versions (again) to get the game working.

      I really enjoy the Grounded games, so when Grounded 2’s early access was about to release I switched back to avoid dealing with those issues.

      Still rocking Linux on my non-gaming devices though, aside from SteamDeck.

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        Went back to windows on it because I kept going to play with friends,

        Shame.

        I really enjoy the Grounded games, so when Grounded 2’s early access was about to release I switched back to avoid dealing with those issues.

        Shame, shame, shame.

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          What would you recommend I do so that I wouldn’t have ran into those issues? Suck it up and keep dealing with the headaches?

          I’m no fan of Windows either, but it lets me play games when I want to play them.

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    Genshin and ZZZ have been running fine from the official installer in a Proton Prefix for years now. They use a different anticheat from the two Honkai games for some reason.

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      Does that mean that Honkai games still can’t be played on Linux? There goes my idea of giving Star Rail a try.

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    You can use https://launcher.moe/ 's software for Hoyo games btw. The top one is the one for Genshin Impact.

    Though last I installed Genshin on Linux I remember there being a slight chance of getting banned because you had to disable the anticheat to run it on Linux, but I never had it happen to me and I’m not sure if that’s still valid.

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      The game’s anticheat is very tame generally. I’ve seen some friends run all sorts of cheats with no real repercussions, only getting a one week temp ban for editing their damage to the maximum integer limit.

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        Absolutely. I Installed the HoyoPlay launcher through Heroic and ZZZ runs flawlessly on my Steam Deck.

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        The game still is mostly single player. But, as most gacha games, Genshin Impact is online-only, mostly so that you couldn’t cheat in any resources you want without paying them a hefty price.

        It was like that from the very beginning.

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            My experience with Genshin Impact: -Tried it (Only the starter region, Mondstadt), thought it was healthily dynamic, but ultimately very childish -Left it for about 2 years -Then my gf has shown me what goes beyond and I had to accept the game has merits

            The storytelling beyond Mondstadt gets a more serious turn, presents interesting and divisive dilemmas and unexpected plot twists - so much so that I wouldn’t recommend it to children, actually. The battle mechanics also change and deepen as you unlock new characters and visit new regions.

            Still, gacha mechanics heavily ruin the game for me. I’m here for the story, not the endless casino. Wish I would get my own private server up and running at some point in the future to remove these mechanics and just play to my heart’s content.

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    Apex runs on Linux. We used to play it, but then they blocked it actively because there were too many cheaters on the platform. I’m sure the cheater problem has been subsided now that it’s blocked /s

    If they “allow it”, you can just play it again.