Can we call these people nazis, or would that also fall under “Oh you people call EVERYONE Nazis”

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      The way that USrael wages war against Arab states has to be called genocide or there should be a new name for waging war in a way that completely dismisses the humanity of the opponent.

      When people think of war they usually think of two entities with similar strength and focussed on military targets and achievements instead of killing as much civilians as possible. USrael wages war out of spite and is more busy with punishing populations for existing rather than actually reaching military targets.

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        name for waging war in a way that completely dismisses the humanity of the opponent

        Dahiye Doctrine maybe (or genocide as you mention)

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          This type of warfare is older than the existence of the zionist entity and calling it a doctrine at least to me makes is sound way too ‘clean’. The name should reflect the horrific reality it represents.

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    I know his actual crimes against the workers of the world are the worst thing about this guy, but I still feel like what I hate the most is his schtick where he’s so excited about war. It’s almost like he doesn’t know that what he’s doing is real and he’s just a kid that’s gotten hyped up by a couple nationalist movies. It would be annoying of he were a 9 year old boy but I would ignore it or occasionally do a little educating. To see an adult act like this is intolerable. I’ve known real life operators, and they had some enormous blind spots, but even they didn’t act anything like this.

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      like he doesn’t know that what he’s doing is real and he’s just a kid that’s gotten hyped up by a couple nationalist movies

      Basically how I see lots of reactionaries who just want to spout what they think sounds cool without truly realizing this is affecting real people. If he wasn’t secretary of war, he’d just be some random loser who doesn’t matter.

      Asmongold is my idea of someone who doesn’t matter and who has the mindset of a child; he doesn’t really fathom what’s happening around the world and he’s just spewing what he thinks sounds cool. Someone like this I genuinely don’t care what he thinks, because he’s a grown manchild; anyone watching him who believes him is either also a child, or will end up trying to use these talking points in public and get humiliated for repeating stupid things they’ve heard.

      Destiny on the other hand is a genuine zionist propagandist; he’s also an idiot, but he’s definitely sharply aware of what the IOF are doing and has decided to support it. His effect on the world is actually harmful (though obviously nowhere near the extent of the secretary of war).

      • Basically how I see lots of reactionaries who just want to spout what they think sounds cool without truly realizing this is affecting real people

        i think this is giving them far too much credit. for most chuds brown people are just not human so killing them is no big deal

  • Look we’re going to kill all of you unless you extract your natural resources on our behalf and give them to us.

    Hey stop resisting or I’ll really hurt you.

    What recourse does this even leave them? Why would they surrender to die?

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    I think Pete wants to drink himself to death but also take the entire world with him in nuclear hellfire.

    Can’t you just do it in a motel room in Las Vegas like a decent alcoholic? At least you get to hang out with Elizabeth Shue that way.

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    you can call them nazis, but then you have to be prepared to actually explain to people why this makes them nazis. kind of a “boy who cried wolf” situation on that one.

    edit: to be clear, evilsandwichman asked if calling Hegseth a nazi is something that would result in “oh you call everyone a nazi.” i am answering in the affirmative, you should call him a nazi because he is, but you’re still going to have to explain to political normies why that is. because they’ll still say “oh you call everyone a nazi” even though this time it’s genuinely a hitlerian situation.

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      then you have to be prepared to actually explain to people why this makes them nazis

      “they are gleefully waging a genocidal war against an innocent populace in the name of their white supremacist ideology” is gonna be enough for most people

      you could fit it on a button, even.

    • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]@hexbear.netOP
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      but then you have to be prepared to actually explain to people why this makes them nazis

      We do, but when their eyes glaze over you realize they’ve stopped paying attention

      kind of a “boy who cried wolf” situation on that one

      Either you don’t know what that means or you think we’re calling tons of people nazis just haphazardly

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        you think we’re calling tons of people nazis just haphazardly

        you have misunderstood me.

        i think the typical u.s. amerikkkan is too ignorant to distinguish between us and liberals. liberal imperialist and fascist imperialists have called everything from liberals to communists “nazis” for the last 70 years; this is ultimately what people mean when they talk about the normal person’s lack of response at just calling someone a nazi and moving on. it’s not inaccurate, but it still fails to be communicative to the typical u.s. amerikkkan.

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      kind of a “boy who cried wolf” situation on that one.

      Nah. The nazi accusations have been very appropriate. You xguys want to call it defangement syndrome but it was justified

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      I think the real “boy who cried wolf” situation happened back in 2016 with how Hillary supporters called Bernie bros racist and sexist which made those attacks completely ineffective against Trump and his actual racist supporters

      Of course liberals are doing the same fucking thing with that stupid election in Texas now