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I have defended my position I did not want it to dominate the conversation.
Good enough.
We’re not “popular opinion”
If I fast forward through commercials on my dvr, am I stealing from media broadcasters too?
If I close my eyes while riding the bus and never see the bus adverts, am I stealing from advertisers?
There’s never a guarantee advertisements are seen by target audiences - especially when they’re being shown on private devices. If more people than expected are able to avoid an advertisement, thats not theft, that’s just poor investment.
that better be an unpopular opinion 😠
I’d steal directly from their wallet if I had the opportunity
That isn’t unpopular its delusional.
It is satire.
A day late
Popular opinion: Good
Exactly! Isn’t that great?
I love stealing from shit companies that objectively make life, this world, and humanity shit.
I won’t ever steal from a person
But companies that lie, steal, cheat, and try ruining everything to get an extra dollar for the CEO? All is fair, the more the better, fuck you for ruining the world.
I know right,
live stealing from corporations. the steal from us all the time. this barely dents the balance
That sounds like something you would say! 😀
Right? I think this user is hilarious, and this post is definitely on brand.
It’s crazy people can’t tell he’s shitposting with a name like that.
OP understood the community assignment
Real “The law is the law” type behavior
GOOD
factually not correct.
what is ‘being stolen’ exactly?
Nothing is being taken from them, they just aren’t getting everything they planned on. that is not theft. just like piracy isn’t theft since nothing is physically being taken or lost.
This is like the 1800s definition of theft. Its been updated but people keep repeating this over and over.
ok…
Yeah, it is not an opinion, it is just plainly wrong. You agree to explicit and well defined terms in the EULA for the product. Opinions aren’t relevant, just the facts of the EULA. My Roku TV EULA does not mandate a maintained internet connection, so I never agreed to provide internet to my TV.
I support piracy but just be nitpicky, data theft is absolutely a thing, hackers do that all the time and you could argue piracy is somewhat data theft or intellectual property theft. Half the internet is up in arms about AI’s use of intellectual property without compensation or consent.
Nope, up in arms about that they think they own it now
So they claim to own it now when they didn’t own it before and they didn’t pay or otherwise compensate for it. That sounds an awful lot like theft
Nope! Factually and objectively wrong, no opinion involved.
If it isn’t connected to the internet, it isn’t using any hosted services. The “stealing” argument, while still wrong, can only be argued if using their hosted services.
This claim is the same as claiming it is stealing if you don’t turn on and use a TV, despite owning one.
from what I’m aware of.
modern TVs are sold at a loss because they then profit of your data.
if that agreement was explicit, I would consider “not connecting it to the Internet” stealing, but a good stealing.
but it isn’t explicit, so it is more like you pritecting yourself from data theft
odern TVs are sold at a loss because they then profit of your data
I strongly doubt that. Maybe they sell at a lower margin to keep competitive, but they’d never sell at a loss. Okay, on paper maybe because they know exactly how to tune those numbers. But in the end, they make profit.
i think there are companies that sell product at a loss. like Costco hot dogs. I heard game consoles do too.
My arguement is they sell TVs at a loss, expecting to make it up with my data.
But they don’t sell any TVs that DON’T do that.
I’d easily pay $20,000 for a 200 inch dumb tv at 8k, BUT THAT DOESN’T EXIST!!!
So I have to make due with a dumb projector.
for that price order a costum made high resolution dot matrix display for the whole wall.
Some video walls are around that price.
Right, what you agree to is clearly described in legal terms in the product EULA, there is no room for opinion because it is all very well defined. At least for my Roku TV, the EULA includes no kind of mandate for internet connection.
it can’t be stealing since nothing is physically being taken from them, nor are we profiting from them.
their expectation on getting our data, isn’t theft since it doesn’t belong to them in the first place.
it’s the same vein that piracy isn’t stealing because nothing is actually being taken. it’s only duplicated. loss of income, or presumed income… sure, but it’s not theft.
i wouldn’t consider it stealing. but they still want someone to blame for lost revenue.
Op’s other opinion: you should tip your landlord
Tipping is for exceptional service. If I rented an apartment and my landlord gave me two apartments instead I’d probably tip him.
Good, smart TVs are cancer. I don’t have one, never intend to have one.
