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I googled Hasan Piker and this quote in this thread was the top result. Hasan Derangement Syndrome gone global

Full translation:

“Maybe Yle should bother doing even a tiny bit of journalism and explain WHY people are calling him what they’re calling him. Hasan Piker has done more damage to support for Ukraine and Finland’s national security than any other leftist influencer, undermining support from the left while MAGA destroys it from the right.”

Imagine being so fucking dense that you believe that an American himbo Twitch streamer is gonna have any effect on Europe’s commitment to continue fighting the war in Ukraine to the last Ukrainian or liquidating more of what remains of their social welfare states so they can buy more weapons and Palantir products from satanic American pedophiles. Finnish national security my fucking ass

I have always avoided Finnish language subreddits like the plague, clearly I have made the right choice

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    Imagine being so fucking dense that you believe that an American himbo Twitch streamer is gonna have any effect on Europe’s commitment to continue fighting the war in Ukraine to the last Ukrainian

    Someone told them they live in a democracy(heh) so if it’s a democracy the will of people influence the government(heh) so if people decide to stop supporting Ukraine(based) the government will follow(heh). That’s the only thing that I can’t think of that makes any sense.

    Of course they are redditors terminally online and they think if he knows who Hasan is everyone also knows who he is.

    • I once said that “the wrong side won the civil war” (i.e. an objectively correct observation) and even some of my close friends who are otherwise certified Good Ones told me I was out of line. Shit like “Dude my great grandfather died in the red terror” as if that’s supposed to be a bad thing. Fuck that guy, glad he got got. I don’t even know what side my ancestors fought for, it’s not exactly talked about (which makes me assume they might have been reds, idk, wishful thinking) and it doesn’t fucking matter. If they were whites I hope they got minecrafted too. God this shit infuriates me. If there is any good and justice in this world, this country will be sunk into hell. Fuck this place.

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        One time I mentioned to my Finnish friend that the Finnish airforce only took the swastikas off their planes like 5 years ago. She was against it, said it was censoring history.

        Listen I like salmiakki and kiisseli but what the hell finland

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        Should have chosen better ancestors. My great-great grandfather got off the boat from Ireland and immediately signed up to kill Confederates on behalf of the Union.

        So now whenever I encounter some chud mad about losing the American Civil War, I’m like “Damn it’s a shame my relatives missed yours with the cannon.”

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        Some of my relatives fought for the Reds and died on White-run POW camps after the civil war. RIP sadness

        Also I didn’t realise this but I was told by relatives that at least in some small towns, the divisions from the Civil War were still alive and bubbling beneath the surface even into the 1960s. White families would tell their kids not to associate with children of the Reds. I was always told in school and in media that the Winter War magically brought every Finn together and mended all the grudges and class divisions left over from the Civil War

        • This was still very much a thing in my family in the 80s. Happened to be born into a family where one side was Whites and the other Reds. Family gatherings were intense. It was definitely an eye opening environment to grow up in, as a kid I did not understand why one set of grandparents were so incredibly shitty and looked up their noses on the cool (Red) grandparents.

          I take some pride in the fact that the last words I ever said to my incredibly abusive and shitty grandfather from the white side was “fuck you”. He died of a heart attack days after that. These were shitty people in every way.

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    Never ask:

    A man his salary

    A woman her age

    A Finn what their relatives were up to between the years 1932 to 1945, how they feel about the Sami or why they have a word for sitting at home drinking all day

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      I would replace the Sami with the Roma, or Somalis, or Muslims and black people in general. Not to downplay the oppression the Sami have faced but your average Finnish racist does not really care about them at all

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          I’m sure you can find plenty of Varg Vikernes-style lvl 99 ultra racists online who can tell you everything wrong with their skull shapes, but I’m talking about your generically racist uncle or coworker or whatever. The most they ever thought about the Sami was when they laughed at that one drunk Sami sketch on Finnish TV in the 90s

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              Sámi discrimination & forced assimilation is a thing though, historically. I agree with pepperoni that in 2026 the more apparent targets are the groups described.

              There is a Sámi-language film called Je’vida about the Finnishization of a Sámi family. It is a somewhat mediocre watch, but worth the watch if curious about what that might have looked like

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    Every time I hear about this guy from leftists he seems like the most milquetoast vague demsoc sort of guy.

    But every time I hear about this guy from CHUDs he sounds like the coolest guy ever.

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      sounds like the coolest guy ever.

      Back during the early days of Gamergate, people talked about Anita Sarkeesian like she was leading some lesbian separatist, “Kill all men!” campaign burning entire countries to the ground. So I went and watched her videos and was all “This is like the mildest, mainstream, intersectional 3rd. Wave Feminism I’ve ever seen?”

      It was another caricature you can add to the pile, similar to that time my mom told me the Black Panthers were a gang.

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        Back during the early days of Gamergate, people talked about Anita Sarkeesian like she was leading some lesbian separatist, “Kill all men!” campaign burning entire countries to the ground. So I went and watched her videos and was all “This is like the mildest, mainstream, intersectional 3rd. Wave Feminism I’ve ever seen?”

        Me too! I was surprised how basic and feminism 101 her videos were, really made me despise a lot of the “nu-atheist” crowd who randomly all started being really anti-feminist at the time, seeing them use the same tactics of cherry picking, fearmongering and deception that religious conservatives use really made me view that whole movement in a new light.

        I can never remember if the Sarkeesian hate was a part of Gamergate or if it was a sort of “proto-gamergate”, testing the waters on creating narrative control on the internet.

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      because we criticize him from his left, so talk about his most libbed up moments, while chuds don’t live in reality and attack him for stuff he didn’t do or give him way more credit than he deserves.

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      He is on the cool side of DemSoc, not milquetoast. Think DSA International committee or Red Star caucus. The two orgs he promotes most are DSA and PSL.

      He is a socialist American political media commentator, and I think he should serve that role and do nothing else. He is going to be funneling a lot of energy into both of those orgs as the cultural pendulum swings back to the left.

      He says himself that he is a propagandist because it’s true, I think he has a path to be the “tucker Carlson of the left”, but that’s about 5 years out (heh)

      If you are a part of the US American left you should be aware of him and what he’s about, because he is taking our views to the big stage right now. A loooot of people are going to start agreeing with us soon, so those of us who are politically aware, active, and involved in some sort of organizing (that’s all of us, right?) need to be locked in and ready to interact with these people. Israel is getting less and less popular every day, and that has blunted the tip of the imperial spear in an irrreperable way, not to mention the Iran quagmire. I think we are going to see a lot of development across the global south in the next two decades, as the force of imperial resistance decays.

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        I kind of expect it from an online commentator, it’s not like he can actually organise anything or encourage violence, but it’s funny to see right wings act like he’s a second Lenin when he’s just some guy that makes videos.

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            He’s probably more relevant for Americans I think. I don’t understand the arguments people get into about him, he seems better than most streamers, but his material conditions limit the amount of radical activity he can do or encourage. I guess that gives people with a parasocial relationship with him the chance to imagine he is secretly more radical than he appears to be.

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    Proof that no matter what your positions are your ops will say whatever they want about you anyway. Hasan has always been a Ukeaine guy, even if not as enthusiastically as people who are more libbed up.

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    I have always avoided Finnish language subreddits like the plague, clearly I have made the right choice

    oh my god same, and just for this reason. I once had to deal with a finnish redditor irl, and bro just unprompted called all russians “the slavic insects, who only know human-wave tactics and are not to be trusted.” catgirl-disgust

    russophobia is like 95% of our national character though so it’s to be expected

    also to my great chagrin Hasan actually supports Ukraine and is mostly anti-Russia, so there’s that great finnish media literacy in good use.

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        true, true.

        Truly Finland deserves nothing more than the dissolution of NATO right as we destroyed our whole welfare state, and tanked our PR as a “neutral” country to join it as an eager dog.

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          That’s all been a long time coming tbh. My theory is that this is all psychosexual and Finnish establishment boomers are still mad about student stalinists being cooler than them and getting laid more in the 1960s

          I mean, that’s what I get from that hysterically anti-communist Jari Tervo documentary series about Finlandisation they keep showing on Yle

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            Finnish establishment boomers are still mad about student stalinists being cooler than them and getting laid more in the 1960s

            i-cant you’re so right actually. This is also probably why some of them are still claiming how the entire entertainment industry was censored by a small stalinist clique of the communist party.

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                That…came out in 1985. Gorbachev was being anti-Soviet plenty at that point. negative

                i wish we had like…good excuses for the shit we do, but it’s always like “No no, we were forced into doing this thing! We’re so sweet and innocent but the big meanies of the world force us into these things uwu.”

          • I can honestly believe this. I think it goes back even further than that. I recently read about women’s red guards during the finnish civil war, and they were absolutely loathed by the proto-hitlerite whites. Even our mythical god-emperor (and good personal friend of Hitler) Mannerheim considered them an aberration.

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              i remember reading something where they framed it negatively that they fought to the death instead of surrendering. like, yeah, who would want to be put into the r#pe camps that the whites were running, exactly?