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      A Gallon is 4 Liters right? I just checked the current Diesel price in my country and it’s at 9.80USD/Gallon. I hate to agree with the Donald here, but those prices are actually peanuts.

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        I’m really tired of everyone comparing the US to countries with completely different fuel consumption profiles.

        In 2024, 72% of all US freight was transported by trucks. For reference, the EU average was 25% road (sea was 67% with optimal fuel efficiency). Freight is also transported over much longer distances, making gas prices a larger part of operating costs. So already, high gas prices hit much harder in the USA than most places.

        Secondly, population density and existing infrastructure require personal car use. There is almost never a rail or public transport option. Despite lower prices and higher average income, fuel spending is a larger percentage of household spending in the US than the EU (especially among the poorer population).

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          Yes you’re right, I agree with you that the conditions are very different because of the reasons you mentioned and the other financial factors like food and rent are probably different too. I admit my original comment comes of very ignorant rereading it now a couple hours later, sorry about that

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        We in the USA prepay to a degree for gasoline. Our taxes subsidize the at pump costs to a significant portion. We get charged twice if not more for what we are considering outrageous prices in the US.

        I went from paying about 24 dollars a week to get to and from work, do errands and child care. Now I’m up to 70+ a week.

        For your country what did diesel cost last year?

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        Well it’s a bit more of a problem when pretty much no infrastructure exists for public transit or cycling for the vast majority of the US

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    Even more fucked when you consider these are the prices in the US with oil subsidies. It would be so much more expensive without them, and only gas-powered vehicles would be paying, and not all of us…

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      Except that all goods require shipping and most shipping is also done by gas powered vehicles. I wish there was a way to opt out but I don’t see it being possible.

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        Well if there wasn’t a subsidy then it would probably be easier to have some long haul trucks switch to hydrogen or lithium ion or come up with something new. We could even subsidize those instead. I would probably do it over time, though, shrinking the subsidy a little bit every year. Eventually we would want some sort of environmental cost being factored in. With these changing slowly over time, it would incentivize new long haul trucks being alternative fuel while also not straight up destroying all current trucking infrastructure and fleets.

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    A station in Iowa had gas for $1.85…but I was down to less than $2/gallon

    … isn’t $1.85 under $2.00? I swear 1 came before 2 when I learned.

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      For some reason that’s the biggest bummer of it all to me, how incredibly dumb and powerful these people are. I’m starting to think someone has to be dumb to want to exert power over another person in the first place. I’m sure it fuels their egos too.

      I wonder what its like to live like that, it sounds incredibly foreign.

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        Intelligence and the drive for ruthless power aren’t necessarily connected. For these dumb MAGA Apes, ruthless power is just a toy to play with.

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    Just remember that the current UK equivalent is $8.30 for Diesel and $7.88 for gas/petrol

    I’m sure you can do better

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      Maybe you should spend a trillion dollars a year on a military whose only purpose is to lower that number a few dollars per gallon

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    Americans have had cheap fuel since forever

    They also seem to like stupid vehicles that are incredibly inefficient

    I love my little electric car. I have solar at home and have never once charged at a station and paid for it

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      you don’t have to pay at a charge station? Did I miss something?

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        They implied they charge off their solar panels at home. However, there are some free charging stations out there. They’re usually slower rates and at places like libraries, but they exist.

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      Fairly certain my Trump “I did that” stickers come down the same day I put them up.

      Glad I sprung for the 100 pack.

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        Cut them after you put them up. Like slice them so when they go to peel them off they have to peel off a bunch of bits of sticker and not the whole thing at once.

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        I bet anything the same bunch that were screaming “make comedy legal again!!111eleventy!” and slapping their knees at how hilarious those Biden “I did that” stickers were (even though he had quite literally nothing at all to do with gas prices OR inflation) are now squealing in agony and racing to tear those down when they see the highly accurate and very apropos Trump “I did that” stickers, though. 🤣

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          Yup. They can’t handle it being thrown back at them because they are snowflakes. It’s literally always projection.

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    I dunno how much longer Bobby John from Oklahoma can take filling up his RAM 3500 Dually lifted XTREME offRoad Pavement Princess Edition™ @ $150 a pop for much longer, Mr. Pedo. You’re making your cult followers very angry!

    Keep it up!

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      The baseline tank size for a ram 3500 is 32 gallons. Diesel is $5.74/gal on average in the Midwest. So a full fill up is ~$184/tank. You underestimated that, yikes.

      For more fun, you can also upgrade to a 50 gallon tank, making it $287/tank.

      These get a respectable ~18 mpg, so $0.32 per mile.

      Just throwing money away

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        They get 18mpg when you drive them like a fucking baby on the highway. Your average idiot who floors it at every stoplight, and does 90 on the interstate gets half that.

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          Don’t forget the fucking idiots totally cool and definitely not compensating intellectuals that “roll coal”.

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            “Tuning” trucks to roll coal is also just turning up the fuel injector duration so they are also blowing extra diesel out basically unburned.

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          It gets between 11-12 mpg on average according to user reports at Fuelly

          Diesel is around $6/gal depending on where you live.

          It costs around $0.50/mile to drive a Ram 3500 6L just in fuel. On average. Across thousands of drivers that reported data.

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        I have a Subaru WRX and it requires 91+ octane. It was $5.64/gal for me a couple days ago square in the Midwest. $71 to fill up and my gas light wasn’t even on. Right next to the 91 on the pump was 88 at < $4.50/gal. When I filled up 2 weeks ago it was $5.09 then 2 days later $5.39. Fuck Trump and his admin so hard.

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          Midwest for me too, cost me $71 to fill up my GTI on Saturday. $6.25 a gallon for 93. Guess I should be grateful I can tune back to stock and run 87 if I have to.

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              Right, I know it is still cheaper than it should be given the environmental cost. I wish I had any other way to get to work but the infrastructure simply doesn’t exist where I am.

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                If your average daily drive is 40 miles or less you can use a regular wall outlet to charge an EV.

                Any more than that and you’ll need a bigger home charger, but you can still charge at home where it’s cheap unless you’re driving over 100 miles or so every day.

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                  I’ve been kicking myself for months for not grabbing an EV when I had to look for a vehicle recently, but got stuck with a gas guzzler cuz I need to be able to tow shit… I fucking hate my car.

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                  I actually have an L2 charger on a 40A line…my main barrier is vehicle size. I’m a tiny car guy. I refuse to buy an SUV or crossover. I’d love an ID.2 or ID.GTI but Americans like their cars as big as their meals — yuge. So VW will almost certainly never sell an EV smaller than the ID.4 here, used to have one and it barely fit in my garage. Not that I’m tied to VW, I’ve just owned a lot of them.

                  The only actual subcompact EVs I’ve seen for sale have been the Leaf, Niro, whatever that tiny BMW abomination is called, and the Bolt.

                  So I guess my barrier is that I’m picky. And I wanted a GTI for years and years and just finally got one…would have bought an electric version in a heartbeat instead.

                  I guess there’s also the e-golf, but there are not a ton of them in the US and given their age idk how good of range they’d have at this point.

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        I can’t think of a time past 2000 where driving conventional ICE trucks/big vehicles has been anything other than a money sink.

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            There’s some douchecanoe in my county who drives around in an obnoxiously large truck with a giant decal on the rear window that says “Daddy’s money paid for this truck. AND I’M DADDY!”

            These people are not reasonable, healthy, or sane individuals.

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        Fucken hell my 25 year old Tacoma gets better mileage, that’s factoring in uphill mileage loss of going uphill along the 15 towards Vegas.

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          No shit your midsize pickup gets better mileage than a heavy-duty full-size one, even if the latter does have a diesel. Were you surprised??

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              Eh, a Tacoma is generally going to be better than a 3500 for climbing over obstacles because it’s more nimble and has better approach/breakover/departure angles. A bigger vehicle (aside from the tires) isn’t necessarily better for that sort of thing.

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            It’s just the fact that my old ass car is getting better mileage than a modern truck. Especially since most of these big fuckass mobiles generally leave the basement less than my basic bitch Tacoma which is just a 2WD drive.

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              Engines have gotten somewhat more efficient in the past 25 years, but not that much more efficient. For example, a 2026 base-model Tacoma is a whopping 3 MPG more efficient than a 2001 base-model Tacoma (according to the EPA, anyway; according to vehicle owners they’re the same).

              https://fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=16989&id=50081

              Internal-combustion engines are a pretty mature technology, especially once you’re talking new enough to have fuel injection. Other than stuff like Atkinson-cycle engines (which only apply to hybrids), the small refinements in efficiency since the '90s aren’t anywhere near enough to overcome the vast size/weight/capacity difference from a reasonably-small truck to a gigantic one.

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                Bikes will always get better mileage than basically any other gas powered vehicle with maybe the sole exception of trains. If memory serves right Germany was still using motorcycles right till the end of WW2 after a everything else ran out of fuel.

                Idk just seems weird for anyone to want a gas guzzler when better shit is available especially when you don’t need it for anything else. Hell with how shit modern cars are and how expensive they are on top of that you could probably pay someone to build you a car if you supplied the frame for cheaper.

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                  With how shit modern cars are? AFAIK they last longer than ever

                  Used to be hitting 100,000 miles was rare, or at least a sign of old age.

                  Although really I was just commenting on the weird “wtf, much smaller older car gets better gas mileage” comment as a crappy reply of my own

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        These get a respectable ~18 mpg

        maybe downhill. lucky to see 12-15 after lifting, or even less with towing.

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        I tried putting some figures ($85K Ram 3500, diesel, financed) into truecosttodrive.com and got a cost/mile of $0.95.

        Point being: Cutting the price of fuel by a third (getting back to where it had been in 2025, say) isn’t going to turn that into an economy ride. Even at $6 / gallon, most of the cost is depreciation, insurance, and maintenance. Driving is absurdly expensive and I believe we only put up with it because so much of the cost is hidden or easy to overlook.

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      Why does no one seem to care about this outside of the internet?

      On the internet, we all agree. Off the internet? It’s like I’m speaking a different language.

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      I just perused approval ratings in reuters this morning, he is 80% support amongst Republicans, which is down.

      But it’s a lot. Independence and Democrats so much less so that his overall approval rating is like 38% last I checked, nevertheless. His base is solid behind him.

      Remember towards the end of his first term he was around 40%, and Biden was at 40% for 3 years and did nothing to change that.

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        nevertheless. His base is solid behind him.

        That’s what Fox News, AM radio and this lovely new crop of manosphere jerkoffs are all put on the air to do. Create this cult.

        Propaganda works. Usually only in one direction, usually only on most people. Add some evil-science military psyop characteristics and yeah. You get that.

        If our billionaire ‘free’ press could get to breaking that down, that’d be great kthx.

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          The Internet has just totally changed things, the crazies, the kooks, the cranks, prior to the internet they would say something crazy and be ostracized for it.

          Now they get online they find a million other people that believe the same thing. And those Rich billionaires are using those crazy people for their own ends

          The only answer is for us to organize and counter use those crazy people against the people trying to use them against us, that’s the truth and we can do it. But obviously there’s a lot more to it than that.

          Obviously mass media was a thing before this and a huge problem, I was just illustrating away things have changed but you’re right Fox News well first of all they are the devil, or at least the voice of evil, but the entire reason we have ended up in this place. Not just them but you know that the worst obviously. Or they were.

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        approval ratings in reuters this morning, he is 80% support amongst Republicans, which is down.

        Let’s just cut our losses and all agree the USA experiment is a failure. Just split it up.

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          If only, that would solve a lot. Got the Eastern corridor, the upper midwest, the southeast Deep South Southwest and west.

          Unfortunately leaving the union is not an option I seem to recall something about a group trying to do that at one point and they were prevented from doing so.