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    Aight, I will not stand for overnight oats slander.

    Shit is delicious. Get your toppings and sweetner right, try it again and then come back.

    No peasant had strawberries, bananas or blueberries to fuck around with. They ain’t had maple syrup or Greek yogurt in that shit. No one thought to make butter from peanuts (I know it’s mostly butter, shhh) and add that in.

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      what do you mean it’s mostly butter? even peanut butter with added oil/sugar/salt is still some 85% peanuts. Or do you mean simply that it had a high fat content?

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        Can’t they make peanut butter where they don’t add anything at all? Like just peanuts?

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          Unsalted natural peanut butter is just roasted peanuts. Salted natural peanut butter is just peanuts and salt. The oil is just from the peanuts, not added.

          No mix peanut butter is the same but with palm oil and usually whichever sweeteners are cheapest. Palm oil hardens at room temperature and keeps the peanut oil from separating.

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          Sounds like you’ve never been to a hippy store. They sometimes have machines that you pour the peanuts into and then you have some peanut butter. You can also have cashew butter, etc.

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            You can get the just peanuts stuff from any store. I think Adam’s is like that. It is the kind you have to stir the oil back in when you get it.

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          They do! But the oil separates and you have to stir it first. And it needs to be refrigerated after opening.

          Convenience, whether it’s for the producer or consumer, got us again.

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          I make my own peanut butter because I like it extra roasty. It’s like 500g peanuts, a half teaspoon of salt.

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            That was the most surprising bit to me when I started making them too. You can make it with literally just blending peanuts and that’s it

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              Many people really don’t understand how simple many processed foods are. “Taco flavoring” and ranch dressing packets are both literally 5¢ worth of herbs and/or spices any normal person already has at home.

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          they can, and some brands only make it like that, but others want peanut butter that doesn’t shift and so add other oils

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          I use peanut butter powder in my overnight oats. Imagine a peasant seeing all that work done just to remove nutritional content because I want to lose fat.

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      We had berries just growing everywhere along the streets and forests as a kid. Where the fuck did they go?

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      Fairly sure that seasonal berries would have been on the menu.

      Honey as a sweetener seems viable

      Greek yoghurt seems pretty likely anywhere cows were milked

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        Yep. Rich get richer. It was also easier to hang them back then.

        But overnight oats are still bomb.

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      Gruel isn’t bad, it’s just like a savoury porridge. Of course you can make it really shit, but you can do that with regular porridge/overnight oats, too.

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      Ok, I’ve got some cut oats and oat milk. How do I go about this overnight oats thing? It just goes in the fridge?

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        Yes but that alone will probably not taste too good. A little more effort is worth it. Easy to meal-prep for the whole week too.

        I use this guys base recipe and mess around with toppings. The banana bread and pb&j ones are a favorite.

        This is a copy paste from his video description:

        spoiler

        1 serving of BASE OATS contains: 310 calories, 12g protein, 45g carbs, 6.5g fat, 14g sugar, and 7g fibre. This is based on using unsweetened almond milk.

        BASE OATS (1 serving):

        Combine and refrigerate overnight:

        ► Rolled oats (1/2 cup)

        ► Chia seeds (1 tbsp)

        ► Milk (1/2 cup)

        ► Greek yogurt (1/4 cup)

        ► Maple syrup (1 tbsp)

        BASE OATS (4 servings for meal prep):

        Combine and refrigerate overnight:

        ► Rolled oats (2 cups)

        ► Chia seeds (1/4 cup)

        ► Milk (2 cups)

        ► Greek yogurt (1 cup)

        ► Maple syrup (1/4 cup)

        FLAVOUR #1 - BANANA BREAD

        First, prepare banana puree by mashing a ripe banana until it softens into a puree.

        Refrigerate ingredients:

        ► Base oats (1 serving)

        ► Banana puree

        ► Ground cinnamon (1/2 tsp)

        ► Vanilla extract (1/2 tsp)

        Add toppings:

        ► Banana slices

        ► Maple syrup

        ► Chopped walnuts

        I also like blueberries here


        FLAVOUR #2 - PB&J (PEANUT BUTTER & JELLY)

        Prepare raspberry puree:

        ► In a saucepan over medium heat, combine raspberries (1 cup), maple syrup (1 tbsp), and vanilla extract (1/2 tsp)

        ► Whisk and stir until it softens into a smooth puree consistency

        ► Set aside to cool

        Refrigerate ingredients overnight:

        ► Base oats (1 serving)

        ► Raspberry puree

        ► Natural peanut butter (2 tbsp)

        Add toppings:

        ► Raspberries

        ► Chopped walnuts

        ► Maple syrup

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          Thanks, I’ll give it a go. How important are the chia seeds to the whole operation?

          And one more dumb question: are rolled oats and steel cut oats different?

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            The chia seeds are fairly important. Both nutritionally and they give it a more pudding like texture.

            Yes; cut oats are quicker to cook generally and in this case result in a less firm texture. But nutritionally the same.

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                Hell yea. Glad I could inspire giving this a go.

                The nice thing is is that you get to control a lot of variables here. So pay attention to the first batch and note what you should tweak.

                Need more texture? Walnuts! I’m curious to see how other nuts fair. Wanna try cachews at some point.

                Too sweet? Less sweetner! Alternatively, add more for a morning sugar rush (I don’t really do coffee so this works).

                Something more tart? Dark chocolate & Dutch processed coca!

                More frutty? Absolutely! I didn’t mention mangos and peaches but I’m partial to them for this.

                But as always: don’t force yourself to like things some rando on the net is yapping about enthusiastically. Everyone is different so do what works for you.

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    Overnight oats slap. I make mine with oat milk, which is an exciting meta. A bit of cinnamon sugar and vanilla sugar, some honey in the morning.

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    I am a daily oatmeal breakfast guy. It’s great for you and affordable. Definitely better for you than the egg, bacon, and pan fried potatoes. To each their own though, I would call people who eat oats peasants though lol

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      So it is oatmeal? The weirdest part is referring to it as “oats” then, we say the full name where I’m from like proper green-blooded Americans.

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        Overnight oats is some other things with oats refrigerated or something? Idk it’s cold though so I’m not about it. I like a hot bowl of oats with my coffee and overnight oats always looks like a pudding to me.

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          Soaking the oats in cold water or milk over night helps your body to get some of the valuable ingredients. It’s probably a good idea to put them in the fridge overnight so the milk doesn’t go bad. But it’s no problem to heat the soaked oats in the microwave in the morning if you prefer them hot.

          If you forgot to soak the oats over night, you can also let them soak in hot water for 30 minutes for a similar effect.

          Or you can just eat them unsoaked. They might be a bit less healthy, but after all, they’re still a healthy food.

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            Good to know. Thanks for explaining that. Never would have guessed it was to pull out more nutrients!

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        But they’d work a couple days out of the year and their lord was expected to fight to protect his people and land

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          The dependency of manoralism and vassalage is a little more complex.

          Working for the lord was often a necessity if your land alone couldn’t feed your family. Sharecroppers would get (as the name implies) a share of the crops they harvest. Other forms of labour might be paid in kind (food, resources) or in money (which might also be required to pay taxes).

          The lord was expected to help out in times of crisis. If the harvest sucked, he would have been able to procure surplus food from elsewhere and help you out (putting you in his debt, of course). If there was danger from a belligerent neighbour, he would have been able to call on his liege to defend his holdings.

          That in turn came with the expectation that, should your lord call on you to help, you would oblige. Your town might be expected to supply a few men, for instance, who would fight with that lord. That lord might in turn be answering the summons of his liege to defend some other lord’s lands, or wage some other war for some other nobles wealth and glory

          So the lord wouldn’t fight alone, but use his own relationships to secure help for you, in exchange for your own service to him. In theory, that’s a mutually beneficial arrangement. In practice, you didn’t get much choice about arranging it.

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      “Peasant” was basically a farmer. Some peasants had land, many didn’t. If you were a tenant farmer not only did you not own the land, in many cases the land owned you. In many cases you were born on the land and you “rented” it from the manor lord. That meant that you were allowed to grow crops on that land, but you owed the lord for letting you use his land. You’d pay that back with shares of your crop and/or labour on his crops. In return, he was responsible for defending you… but that meant he’d conscript you into his army and you’d fight the invaders.

      If you didn’t like that deal, too bad, if you were a villein you couldn’t leave the land without the lord’s permission. You weren’t a slave exactly, but you weren’t free to go find work elsewhere.

      There were peasants who did own land, but it wasn’t common. The equivalent today would be if you rented from a landlord, but you had to use a uber-jobs app that required you to do odd jobs for your landlord for free for 1-2 days a week.

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        Yeah, there was nothing good about it. My great great grandfather was a serf as a kid until it ended at the end of the 1840s. Almost all of the food they produced was taken by their lord. The little bit his family was allowed to keep wasn’t enough to stop them from being sickly from hunger. They lived in a tiny cabin, and slept on what effectively were picnic table benches - two people per bench with their arms and legs hanging down to the floor from each side. There were just a couple differences between that and being slaves. Slaves were legally considered dead, serfs were not. Serfs were bound to the land, slaves were not. That meant a serf could only be bought and sold with the land, and serf families could not be split apart. It also meant they could not legally be murdered or raped. But they were expected to work for and give almost everything they produced to the lord, and they were not paid. They could not leave because they were bound to the land.

        A lot of rich capitalist billionaires really would like to bring that back.

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          Yeah, a lot of people bitch about capitalism without realizing that capitalism was a significant step up from feudalism / manorialism for most people. When they bitch about capitalism, a lot of what they hate is evidence it’s actually drifting back towards feudalism. Renting instead of owning, for example. Or monopolies in control of things instead of there being healthy competition.

          I’m all for the Star Trek future, which shares a lot in common with communism. But, it’s a future where there is no scarcity. In the present where scarcity is a real issue, communism always seems to quickly become an elite ruling over a population that can’t vote them out. Unless someone can prove that there’s a system better than capitalism that we can actually get to from here, I’d rather focus on trying to fix capitalism than overthrow it and inevitably end up with something worse.

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        There’s nuance here: a peasant may have owned some land, but often not enough to live off of, which made them dependent on additional labour on the land of some landlord to supplement their own land’s harvest.

        I recommend reading this historian’s analysis of life as a peasant.

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            As I understand the term, it generally refers to the agricultural class in pre-industrial societies. I thought it obvious that this was the comparison made by the post. I’m not aware of any more modern application of the term aside from using it as an insult.

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                Okay, fair point, my use of the term is very eurocentric. I’ll concede my ignorance on the social structures in other parts of the world where the term may still apply.

                As I read this:

                First, those agrarian movements which are done by the poor agriculture labourers and marginal farmers, and these kinds of movements are known as peasants movement.

                That seems to include marrginal farmers, i.e. those with barely enough land to sustain their family, if that much. We’re back to my point: Peasants may have land, but not enough to qualify as landholders. The criterion is not whether they have any, but whether they have too little, which includes having none at all.

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      I’m interested but know nothing about overnight oats. Are they special oats, or just the usual oats and it’s about the cooking/prep?

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        Throw some oatmeal in a bowl with milk (or water) and leave it overnight. Then throw in some fruit and other things to make it tasty. It is actually quite good and very quick.

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        It’s so easy. It’s easier than making hot oats. I use small jars. Half a cup of rolled oats out of a bag. Half a cup of oat milk maybe a bit of salt, vanilla sugar. Leave it in the fridge overnight. In the morning, delicious cold oats. Great summer breakfast. Takes seconds to prepare.

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    OOP getting roasted in this thread by the oat gang (correctly so)

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    America: Land of the free, home of the brave. The richest nation in the world!

    Also America: Gig economy so you can earn enough to stay off the streets or prison, where you can legally be made into a slave.

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    Honestly oats are one of my favorite foods though, I have binge eaten massive quantities of them before. I think I may have been a horse in a former life.

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      “Everything is so expensive these days.”

      Says the person rocking the newest iPhone Pro Max (they literally just use it for Facebook and Temu).

      Finance is a beautifully elegant con.

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        Yeah, I’m not sure why people think they need those. I’ve got a Moto G Power and I think it’s great for the price. It’s even waterproof. Budget phones are actually good these days - you don’t need an expensive phone anymore.

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      I’m a tiny home dweller. It helps to be a small-statured nimble foldable person who never outgrew the thrill of having sleepovers in a fort, which I am. Now imagine the added thrill of having no mortgage, no rent, no utilities payments, debt-free, every dime I earn is mine to keep & spend as I wish, it’s all pretty great.

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        That’s awesome if it works for you, especially if it’s your choice. I’m sure the stature helps tremendously.

        What I don’t like is single families competing with corporations for homes and driving the prices up to unaffordable levels, and then being fed all these videos about how we should cram ourselves into smaller and smaller boxes just so we could keep a buck we earn.

        It’s the same principle with buying a house. Once you own, your savings increases. Except I have a full sized washer and dryer with more leg room.

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      No one actually needs a 4 bed 3 bath house with a 3 car garage and backyard with pool and storage for a bunch of different hobbies, tools and equipment.

      It’s just a wasteful use of resources and literally killing the planet because people aspire to this level of consumption.

      Very few are ready to have a conversation about what is actually required to avert climate catastrophe.

      Even fewer are prepared to give up the things required to actually avert climate catastrophe.

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    I’ve lived in both a large house and a tiny apartment, and there is just something super appealing about living somewhere that you can understand at a glance.

    The only thing I didn’t like about tiny studio apartments was the inevitable lack of noise isolation.

    Now, my dream is to live in a house that probably is just a little too big to qualify as “tiny,” but the house is on a decent piece of land. Basically a nice cabin in the woods sort of house, but without the horror movie connotation.

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      That’s my dream too. The struggle is that I’d prefer not to homeschool the kids, and it’s hard to find that sweet spot where you have that kind of space and are in a good school district.

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        Homeschooling is like what ayurvedic is to medicine. Or a chiropractor to an orthopedic specialist. Except you have to do it yourself and your kids won’t learn how to adjust and cooperate with others. You were planning to do this on a 9 to 5 schedule? How do you handle PE? Shop? Do you understand the material you will be teaching? Do you know how to construct and evaluate tests? How to keep track of progress and keep lesson plans planned three years ahead? Or are you just gonna wing it and learn as you go?

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      When my wife and I got our first apartment, it was a tiny studio. 15’x12’. But, as our family grew, we needed more space to accommodate the kids. We currently have 13 people in our household, and we built another extension on our house to bring it to 14 bedrooms. Sometimes I miss the simplicity of that tiny studio. Being able to clean our entire living space in like 20 minutes was pretty great. But the tradeoff of having enough space to build a big family is worth it IMO. If my life had gone differently, and I was just a single dude, or if my wife and I had decided to go the DINK route, I’d be fine in a tiny home.

      But it was really nice being able to open my home to my niece when my sister went to prison and my niece had nowhere to go. When my oldest son’s marriage imploded and he needed to move back home (with his kids in tow), it was nice to have the space to host them. I try to always have an empty room in case someone I love is in a bad situation. Couldn’t really do that in a tiny home.

      I also host most big family events, like Thanksgiving, Christmas, 4th of July and whatnot. I have a HUGE extended family, and we generally have ~50 guests in addition to our own household. Trying to host 50 guests in a tiny home would be impossible. Trying to cook enough food in a tiny kitchen would be an insane endeavor. Not to mention the idea of all those people trying to share one tiny bathroom.

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      Everything within reach, everything in its proper place, quick to clean, minimal upkeep, don’t have to walk half a mile to the bathroom, cheaper, much simpler ventilation control, it’s just better and cozier to me dammit.

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    and? i love me some gruel. get some cinnamon, a little bit of coffee, some weed and some hatred, that’s a good breakfast there

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    Smaller houses or apartments are actually great. Not like shed sized but 500-1000 sqft units are great for singles or couples on a budget. I’ve met a lot of retirees that downsize as well.

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      I want a tiny house because I don’t have the time, energy or interest to care for a big house. Give me an adequately sized indoor space and a big garden

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      As a European, i have no idea how large this is. Could be a football field, could be a dog shed

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        I hate that my country uses a mix of metric and imperial units but sqft is the most common unit for area of housing or rooms. Its about 45-90 square meters, which is something you could have easily converted online or with a calculator.

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          Europeans are internet challenged.

          edit: how can you dowvote this? This european is obviously challenged. He or she is a fucking idiot.

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            also mathematics. it’s kind of funny how easy the units are to convert between, but they refuse because hamburgers are soooo hard.

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      It really depends what you want to do. I like having a workshop / maker space and a home office. You need space for that kind of thing.

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    I built and lived in a tiny home for 7 years. 330 sq/feet. I gutted and converted a 1952 Spartan Imperial Mansion. Put in hardwood floors, a bathroom with clawfoot and bidet, a full-sized bed, a pull-out guest bed… I had a full kitchen and fridge, and enough storage for food, guitars, and other things.

    I chopped firewood every day because I heated my place with it in the winter via hardwood stove.

    I miss a lot about that lifestyle. What I don’t miss was the isolation.