Who genital inspects the genital inspectors
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Li said that students could get the genetic or hormone test options listed in the initiative, in lieu of a genital exam.
Ok, what about when those things don’t match the assigned sex? What do we do with those kids? If we start doing mass hormone and chromosome testing, I think we’re going to find that there are a lot more “edge cases” than we think there are.
Dr. Erica Li, a pediatrician who supports Heywood’s measure to block trans girls from girls’ teams, acknowledged that sports physicals don’t currently require sex verification.
But she noted that other types of exams do, such as annual pediatrician checkups, which are more robust than a sports signoff.
Every child who sees a pediatrician regularly should receive a brief genital exam at some point “to confirm that puberty is progressing properly,” Li said. Doctors could use this information to confirm birth sex without conducting a separate visual inspection for the sports physical, she said.
Li said that students could get the genetic or hormone test options listed in the initiative, in lieu of a genital exam. She also said a doctor could review a student’s birth records, though language in the initiative does not mention that alternative.
daily i’m reminded that most doctors in germany joined the nazi party
They managed to check if my puberty was progressing properly by simply asking me in a questionnaire. I never had my genitals examined as a child. Neither have my own children.
Are yank doctors really fondling the genitalia of children for no good reason?
Yeah a genital inspection is usually part of a sports physical in the U.S. Source: I played baseball in middle school
I don’t have kids, but I don’t remember this ever happening to me as a child.
Every child who sees a pediatrician regularly should receive a brief genital exam at some point “to confirm that puberty is progressing properly,” Li said
Someone needs to check this freak’s hard drive tbqh.
another day in the epstein regime
this country keeps getting more normal by the day
Penis Inspection Day used to be a joke
I VOLUNTEER to Look at Children’s Genitals!
-People who think Trans people are Pedophiles!
And of course this is going to pass in a landslide.
Putting people’s rights up to a vote? Of course the masses will always vote to make the minority suffer.
They want that it would become part of regular medical practice to issue some sort of certificate of true sex to children. I really dont think doctors would take that into their work. Even if they found one who would. It’s too weird. That one doctor knows it and is thinking she is gonna get herself a nice little business opportunity as one of the few who will debase themselves and drag their own profession into further disrepute by humoring these fanatics. So she will have a tidy little business issuing “certificates”. Maybe even get contracted by leagues or other bodies to mandate all players go to her as an official assessor of “sex”.
Actually the proposal is similar to virginity testing which is something some people want doctors to do. And some do do, but its a big headache. Except apparently in Quebec, which might be out of racism more than feminism.
In either case, putting aside the bigoted reasons for wanting it, actually implementing a screening like this would create a lot of hassle for the medical system because as everyone here knows, even “biological sex” is a spectrum, there is not “a test” that can be done like these people want. Even those doctors who chose to involve themselves in “sex testing”, like at the Olympics, quickly become all tangled up in arguments. Nobody needs that in their life. Health care system has enough problems and attempting to satisfy these assholes is not going to even get onto the list. A law like this would lead to even more skill + brain drain as lib doctors get stressed out having to argue with parents about this stupid shit, decide to just move to a different jurisdiction.
The other day I posted a story about UK doctors having their licenses taken away for saying “I do not condemn hamas” but in the US, it seems doctors can say absolutely anything. Cant believe the license much less speciality in pediatrics is not in question when advocating for these totally anti scientific hateful practices.
Actually the proposal is similar to virginity testing which is something some people want doctors to do. And some do do
Point of order. I know you aren’t suggesting otherwise but, in fact, no one does this because it is not a thing that is possible. Some attempt it, and those people should be minced.
Dr. Erica Li, a pediatrician who supports Heywood’s measure to block trans girls from girls’ teams, acknowledged that sports physicals don’t currently require sex verification.
But she noted that other types of exams do, such as annual pediatrician checkups
America is fucking weird. You have pediatricians that fiddle with kids bits once a year and that’s supposedly normal? Where the fuck is this happening and why haven’t I heard of it before?
american. in my annual checkups there was never any “fiddling” with my genitals, doctor would just check for hernia by asking me to do that cough thing while pressing on my groin but there was no touching of genitals and i dont even remember ever having to pull my pants/underwear down far enough to where the doctor could even see my genitals
It’s things like checking for testicular cancer/anomalies, worms, etc. I’d be surprised if other countries don’t do that.
Not normal over here at all. If you’ve got a problem and report that problem then sure, you can see a doctor and have a checkup. But annual checkups that include a genital inspection without an actual reason? Completely unnecessary. In fact, annual checkups aren’t a thing here either. If you tried to book in “I just want a check up” any UK surgery is going to respond with “Ok what for? What are your symptoms?”
I’m genuinely being culture-shocked by this shit. It’s weird as fuck because it’s totally unnecessary.
Children are different because they can’t articulate problems, and because sometimes parents have weird or wrong ideas that should be redirected. Kids dont come with instruction manuals. Its hard for parents to know the difference between their kid being weird and sick.
In the UK there is a thing called health visitor that does some of the stuff of a regular check up in a different context. Somebody needs to do things like monitor weight and other basic screenings. Vaccines are often rolled into it too. In the US that stuff is more likely done at a medical office either by a doctor or under their supervision. Some of it could also be done at school.
This is all globally understood, here is a document (powepoint sorta thing) from UNICEF that kind of goes over the broad strokes https://www.childhealthtaskforce.org/sites/default/files/2024-04/FINAL COMBINED_WHO_UNICEF_Well Care Visits Global Webinar.pdf There are international guidelines that can be rolled out in different ways. Here is a list of screenings currently reccomended by the NHS for various ages groups. That means they are exams and tests that are done for no reason other than “everyone should be checked”.
I don’t think anybody older than 4ish needs annual genital exams unless they have a specific reason but a lot of people even adults expect that kind if thing as routine. It depends on culture. A friend of mine who grew up in the rubble of the USSR told me that starting around puberty someone came to school and all the girls had to line up for vaginal exams every year. She didn’t even know what they were looking for but it was culturally normal and everyone just went along with it.
In general its more old fashioned to expect very thorough routine exams as a person becomes an adult. Modern health care is more confident at doing things like waiting for adults to identify their own problems. There are also various economic and social tensions pushing and pulling.
NHS doctors don’t do annual physicals because they barely have time to do direct treatment to seriously engage in preventive measures like that. Go look at private doctors in the UK though and you will find that they all offer these services.
In fact, annual checkups aren’t a thing here either.
Maybe start there, because checkups are part of preventative care and much better for public health than waiting to go to the doctor only when something is clearly wrong. I don’t have any particularly strong opinion on how checking testicles is handled and if another method would be better, but in the most general terms yes it does make sense to have a medical expert check there (and other places where it’s very easy to check for symptoms of severe conditions, e.g. lymph node swelling, which can be in the genitals but also other areas) rather than exclusively rely on the child and parents who are notably not medical experts (though of course they are also given instruction on checking and reporting).
If that were true then there would be evidence that stopping them decades ago had a negative impact, but it did not.
I’m confused why something like that could just be flatly asserted. There are lots of articles you can find about underdiagnosis in the UK of conditions that things like generalized regular checks make an effort to find. Aside from the public health topic in a more general sense, could you explain about annual checkups being stopped decades ago? I’d be interested to learn about the history there but I’m having a hard time finding it because I’m pretty bad at this sort of thing.
side thing, but exclusively going to the doctor when an overt symptom emerges can be bad, as stuff like cancer/diabetes/etc can go undetected and fester
Checking for hernias or major issues once a year at an annual checkup is not sexual assault.
I did not say it was. I said it’s weird as fuck. Nobody gets their bits fiddled with over here without an actual reason or symptoms to warrant it.
In the context of an annual checkup?
It absolutely is not.
Edit: Perhaps it doesn’t happen to AFAB but based on anecdotal evidence it was still a common (albeit not annual) thing for AMAB children in the 90s, even in the UK.
https://www.ukhillwalking.com/forums/off_belay/strangeworrying_flashback_from_primary_school-723781
You sure that isn’t just part of some healthcare privatization and cost-cutting effort? I mean an annual checkup can be just a money-seeking thing so it goes either way but still.
Hernias are not a common issue for children so that still doesn’t add up at all
they dont even touch your genitals for the hernia check i dont understand what the big deal is
Literally peeking at kid’s privates, but remember it’s the trans and the gays that are the pedophiles.
Wtf!! I mean, wouldn’t a birth certificate suffice??
not saying this to validate the proposed law, but some states allow that to be changed without reassignment surgery
Just very normal stuff, nothing to see here
