• pewpew@feddit.it
    4·
    2 天前

    One day digital is also going to die and we will be forced to stream games on a crappy service that costs 50$ a month

  • hmmmmm@altgag.net
    81·
    4 天前

    don’t worry, it will vanish soon and everything will be “in the clouds”

    aren’t you excited?

  • mlg@lemmy.worldEnglish
    531·
    4 天前

    Bluray is still alive and well because its the only format that has full quality basically 1:1 media encodes which ironically make up the backbone of full quality media piracy.

    No streaming service will ever support 70Gb+ file sizes because they never bothered to implement multicast so it would shred their bandwidth or rely on predownloading which would shred the tiny local storage included on most smart TVs.

    You could of course use jellyfin or any other file share protocol to DIY, but you’d better have a stable 100Mbps minimum upload/download speed lol.

  • HackThePlanet@lemmy.mlEnglish
    18·
    4 天前

    I don’t doubt that digital is more accessible and readily available than other formats. The biggest problem is that few services allow me to download locally what I’ve purchased.

    So, for me, you’re not buying anything, you’re just renting for the long term.

    Honestly, I’m tired of buying digital only to suddenly find out I can no longer use what I purchased. For these services, I prefer self-hosting or any method that allows me to have a working copy locally. At least I can decide what to do with the digital content.

    • Kaligalis@lemmy.world
      2·
      3 天前

      Just make sure, that you don’t buy anything with unbroken DRM. If you ever lose access, you can just get it back from the pirates.

    • A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl
      1·
      3 天前

      Then become gog costumer number one, you could say we pay with our wallets and for the change, Gog is right there.

      but honestly, I like valve enough, me, personally, not to worry that much.

      • HackThePlanet@lemmy.mlEnglish
        2·
        3 天前

        Steam seems to be one of the very few services (perhaps even the only one I know of) that hasn’t transformed its product by following the trend of enshittification. I have many games on Steam, purchased years and years ago, many of which are no longer available, but I can still download and play, having purchased them back then.

        I really appreciate Steam, but from what I read every day, I don’t think “forever” exists, especially online. If we think of it in terms of “everything’s in the cloud,” well, the cloud costs money, so unless they somehow dispose of data, I don’t know if a company can actually keep every single piece of data “forever” while maintaining a good price and not losing out or burdening consumers.

        The same goes for physical copies: I could lose them, break them, my house burn down, and I’d lose everything, whereas if they were in the cloud, I wouldn’t have any problems. The point is that consumers should be allowed, where possible, to export what they’ve purchased. Honestly, I think that anyone who bought movies or other content on some platform and then years later discovered that the company had removed them and they could no longer use them (or worse, the same content was on another paid platform) would honestly bother me.

        • Prathas@lemmy.zip
          1·
          3 天前

          You’re forgetting the two most important words:

          I can still download and play

          … so far.

  • ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world
    36·
    4 天前

    My personal conspiracy theory is that Sony is trying to kill Blu-ray before it enters public domain. (2028-2030 or so). Single-layer Blu-rays are invaluable for my cold storage backups. So I’m going to keep buying them. And thanks to them, entering public domain, innovation will be possible once again. So, in all honesty, I don’t have that much to fear, as mega corporations also use blu-rays heavily for backups, together with tape.

    • Soggy@lemmy.worldEnglish
      121·
      4 天前

      How’s the long-term stability of Blu-Ray? I know we’re running into problems with magnetic tape and CDs degrading.

      • ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world
        91·
        4 天前

        Magnetic tape depolarizes over time. CDs were organic and they would literally rot away. But as long as your Blu-ray discs are high to low (HTL)/inorganic Then you’re really set for at least 30 years as well, just like professional tape, but at a fraction of the price.

          • ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world
            1·
            3 天前

            I also have CDs that are this old. There’s a big difference between CDs that you can burn yourself, because those are using organic materials and the weak laser in your disk drive to burn them and professionally made disks, which are usually using inorganic materials and molds. The molds then are embossed into the datalayer of the CD, making it significantly more durable than organic discs.

  • flagpole268@lemmy.zip
    6·
    3 天前

    I feel sad Radio Shack ran out of business bc now you have to be at least 30 years old to know you can still acquire rippers for $10 to rip/burn dvds, cds, and games. I still use my first Xbox and my latest PS5 as DVD players. The most expensive part is storage atp.

      • TwodogsFighting@lemdro.idEnglish
        1·
        2 天前

        Data md existed. If it had been included from the beginning, md would have been a killer. As usual, Sony decided to shoot themselves repeatedly in the feet instead.

      • Blackmist@feddit.ukEnglish
        1·
        3 天前

        Not sure it was even used to distribute music. Was decent for copying a CD to it though…

      • 0x0@lemmy.zip
        1·
        3 天前

        No, music (unless you count Hi-MD) but except for cartridge i see no direct correlation between “games” or “general software” and the picture posted.

    • GrilledCheese@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      2·
      1 天前

      Last time I was there they had Pokemon Crystal version for over $400, which is probably a fair price but reminded me the used games market is expensive :(

    • Pacattack57@lemmy.world
      10·
      4 天前

      I have never been to a game shop with prices based in reality. They upcharge the hell out of their stuff and it’s insane.

      • Otter@lemmy.ca
        6·
        4 天前

        Thrift stores used to be pretty good. It was a flat few dollars per game the last time I looked at them.

        • realitaetsverlust@piefed.zipEnglish
          61·
          4 天前

          Yeah, used to. But people figured out years ago that old copies of pokemon go for 100€+ on ebay so they are basically hunting every thrift store or flea markets for elderly mothers who sell their sons stuff who moved out 10 years ago and hasn’t bothered picking his old stuff up.

    • MinnesotaGoddam@lemmy.worldEnglish
      6·
      4 天前

      You know, I haven’t tried requesting a video game through interlibrary loan and now I kind of want to just to try it. I love inter library loan

        • MinnesotaGoddam@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          3 天前

          i only have one librarian at the local library i dare ask for battletoads. we’ve been friends since about when we were born.

            • MinnesotaGoddam@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2·
              2 天前

              well also if she tries to beat me up for being stupid, as i would deserve, my belly is larger than her. i need a large belly for professional reasons.

    • OwOarchist@pawb.socialEnglish
      9·
      4 天前

      … all of them priced like brand new games. Some more expensive than their original retail price, thanks to inflation.

      At least that’s the case in my local used game shops.

      But that’s okay. I can find plenty of booty to plunder on the high seas.

      • orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts
        2·
        3 天前

        Yeah, a lot of shops have gone off the rails with prices. The same thing happened with the vintage clothing market. All these folks started selling old shirts on eBay for like $50 minimum, and now all of the thrift stores are picked clean, or are selling those items at crazy prices themselves.

        I tend to get games that aren’t in the sought after list and get lucky sometimes. You can still find games at thrift stores if you’re lucky. You just have to hunt and be okay with disappointment lol.

      • Chronographs@lemmy.zipEnglish
        3·
        4 天前

        Less thanks to inflation and more due to scalpers who will buy them and flip them on ebay if they’re not

  • Kaligalis@lemmy.world
    71·
    3 天前

    Physical mediums aren’t gone - they are just all HDD and SSD now.
    I switched from CDs to HDDs two decades ago. HDDs are still great as physical long-term storage.
    Your digital is just HDDs and SSDs in someone else’s computers.

  • [object Object]@lemmy.ca
    212·
    4 天前

    At some point does it make sense to use Blu Rays?

    I have a No Man’s Sky disk. Like 5% of the code on that disk is in the production game today. It’s online only, so I couldn’t even play it with the disk.

    Cartridges do kinda make sense, you could patch the game on them (in theory), they can come in much larger sizes than disks too.

    Side note: modern gaming is shit.

    I bought Spyro and couldn’t even play it without agreeing to a privacy policy. It’s a single player offline game from the PS1 era. I installed The Sims 4, I can’t even play without an EA account. I tried Assassin’s Creed and you need an Ubisoft account to open the game.

    Shit is fucking stupid.

    • OwOarchist@pawb.socialEnglish
      6·
      4 天前

      Cartridges do kinda make sense, you could patch the game on them (in theory), they can come in much larger sizes than disks too.

      If AI wasn’t making SSD prices so outrageous right now, an SSD-based cartridge system would make a lot of sense. They could be made in a variety of sizes, to accommodate games with different filesystem footprints, and if the SSDs in them have tolerable performance, they could be played directly off the cartridge, without needing to ‘install’ anything – just insert and go.

    • 𝔼𝕩𝕦𝕤𝕚𝕒@lemmy.world
      41·
      4 天前

      Pretty sure it has the 2016 version of NMS on it. Booted up a ps4 install with it to try and couch co-op only to look around and ask why the UI was so different from what I was used to. It had internet access we thought but it can’t have or it would have installed whatever the latest patch is. It was surreal seeing pillars of Emeril again.

      But you point yes, gaming single player offline is a joke now with DRM requiring single player online. We ripped EA Simcity for this. Simcity died to City:Skylines because it became such a movement.