When Elon says “historically accurate”, what he means is “no black people”.
Ohh, I’m sure there will still be black people. They will just be in the very specific roles of servants / slaves / cannon fodder.
Wouldn’t slaves in Greece just be other Greeks and stuff.
No, no, no. None of that “logic” stuff in here, pal.
Musk is making it. They’ll be black. To match his version of historically accurate.
Spoiler alert: he won’t actually make it OR have anyone make it.
Woke people always showing their brain !
I think Elon would also unLGBTQ the Greek Gods.
What colour were the cyclops’ eyes Elon?
I think this is code for “True to the art of the white race.”
There’s literally terminally online people mad that the Odyssey just… isn’t that.
Lol yeah I mean Elon did lie about having a max level Diablo II account and then got caught buying one, like the punk he is
He’s been broken since that diver rescued those kids rather than wait for Elon to build a cave diving submarine, and Musk’s grown-up rational response was to call him a paedophile.
According to some that knew him, he’s been broken long before that. Notably his first wife basically described exactly the man we are seeing long before that incident, but no one really took that in at the time. Even before they split up, saw a video about him taking delivery of one of his first rich person cars and on the video she already clearly thought this was some stupid bullshit.
Before folks were able to curate his public image and moderate his “creative input”. He was seen as a crucial brand to maintain and powerful folks were eager to maintain the “real life Tony Stark” concept. Those are the guardrails that have worn out.
I call the rescue diver incident his public Mask Off moment. Everything before that could be considered harmless shitposts or trolling other rich people.
That’s when I realized something was seriously wrong with him, and he wasn’t just an autistic, eccentric genius.
Yeah I remember reading her article about him before he was widely disliked and coming to the conclusion he was a scumbag, but even then I didn’t expect him to get as bad as he did
Yeah, he’s always been this person. Pretty much everyone who’s ever worked with him has always described him as a contrarian twat. I think his public image started to shift soon after firing his longtime secretary/mommy Mary Beth Brown, who used to control all his public engagement.
He’s also always been self aggrandizing. He occasionally brags about how he was one of the best Quake players in the world. Turns out he just had access to a corporate T1 line which gave him a major advantage in online tournaments. When someone else with similar access soundly trounced him, he accused that person of cheating for doing exactly what he himself was doing.
It’s been always obvious to anyone with two semesters of college physics that he has never had any idea what he is talking about.
In just two years, the premiere will be held at a big party at my cool (not weird) house on mars. The guests will all be real robots that do cool (not weird) dances to thank me for throwing the wildest parties. The AI actors will all have my normal and very regular speaking cadence, comic timing and cool (not weird) body shape. Anyone who isn’t a robot but wants to attend will have to get pregnant by me, and from that point forward we will only communicate through filed lawsuits.
[Unprompted karate demonstration, done with hands straight down at sides and without lifting foot above height of opposite ankle]
One of the most historically-accurate period movies I’ve ever seen is Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
“'ow do you know he’s a king?”
“He hasn’t got shit all over 'im!”
It is like saying that you are going to remake Die Hard but make it more historically accurate.
That building isn’t even in L.A.!
I’d watch a historically accurate Die Hard.
Protagonist dies in second shoot out
It’s pretty hard to watch
That building isn’t even in L.A.!
Akshtually, that depends how you look at it. Yes, it isn’t in the downtown LA, but it is located in Century City that technically is in Los Angeles (west part of it, on the border with Beverly Hills)
It was called Fox Plaza now it is called 2121 Avenue of the Stars
even at the time it was first told it was a fantasy story about a mythologized distant past. complaining that the Odyssey doesn’t have costumes accurate to the time of Homer is like complaining that Lord of the Rings doesn’t have Aragorn running around in a WW2-era English army uniform
Yeah… This isn’t about costumes at all. It’s about casting a woman of color as Helen of Troy.
I generally don’t like virtue signaling but I just watched Odyssey the casting was on point for the entire movie. Amazing performance all around and hated Elliot Page and Lupita Nyong’o did amazing jobs - these people are 100% just racists and bigots.
I’m a Greek mythology nerd too and this is by far my favorite Hollywood take in this niche!
I generally don’t like virtue signaling
So normally, you’d be against this because casting a black person in a historically white role is “virtue signaling”?
Have you ever considered that the casting director chooses who they think is best for the job?
You’re honestly telling on yourself when you call shit “virtue signaling.” You’re tacitly admitting that you could never believe that a person might be the best for the job because of their race or gender.
If it’s used regarding something not related to race, you’re admitting to everyone that you lack basic empathy, and therefore refuse to accept that others might have that empathy. “They must be virtue signaling, because nobody actually wants to help the homeless.”
This “everything is virtue signaling” bullshit is for the birds. It’s a thought terminating cliche that literally makes people racist and sociopathic
Stop. Do better.
So normally, you’d be against this because casting a black person in a historically white role is “virtue signaling”?
No, just other kinds of virtue signaling. I think re-interperting is perfectly fine as long as the context isnt something punching down like black face. I misspoke I guess but there are virtue signaling that is more akin to obvious rage bait but odyssey is clearly not it.
Ah yes, the daughter who was born when her mother fucked a goose and hatched her from an egg. Famously, all goose-born demigods must be white. Everyone knows this.
Why is everyone convinced Troy is a Greek state?
From what I recall there’s no definitive site labeled “Hey historians and argumentative future nerds, this was ilion or Troy”. Priam ruled here, Hector and Achilles died yonder."
Speculation I remember placing it near Carthage, then Istanbul.
I of all people should probably know, but I just don’t think it fucking matters, personally.
Edit: before I get that message, I am aware the illiad is a work of fiction, with a possible degree of basis in truth, or none at all being another possibility.
Yeah it’s in Anatolia, the Trojans would probably look like modern Turks
It’s set during Greek Bronze Age/Mycenaean civilization. I guess the historical accuracy means portraying that period accurately within the frame of the fantasy.
the point is that even the original ancient Greek audience would not have had, nor been expected by the author to have, an accurate conception of what it was like to live several hundred years before their own time. historical accuracy has never been a necessary, or even intended, aspect of the work
I mean he probably assumed and intended them to be thought of as looking more like his time than the setting. So that could be another point of “historical authenticity”, setting it to time period of Homer.
Some people just enjoy that sort of “accuracy” even in this type of work. It can be neat
Which there are valid complaints about costuming in that context, but that’s not really what the crowd whining about “historical accuracy” gives a shit about.
Like, if it were SCA nerds nitpicking dyes and fabric types, or armor construction - sure, that’s lots of fun. As someone with an interest in textile history I do get annoyed by the fact that the last decade of filmmaking seems to have deprioritized making pretty costumes and everything looks so cheap nowadays.
But that’s not what right wing chuds are complaining about. They don’t actually give two shits about historical accuracy (consider how popular 300 is with that crowd…) Odysseus could have a fucking lightsaber and they wouldn’t care as long as everyone was white.
Yeah, but there’d actually be more roughspun fabrics worn everyday than beautiful silks like they’d portray in a 60s era sword and sandal film.
Fact is we can’t conceive what the gene pool even made a Greek look like that long ago anyways when this existed as song.
Aren’t there a bazillion adaptions that only have white English actors already. And of course they didn’t care when non-Mediterraneans whites were given roles to play people from the Mediterranean. Like where was the outrage when fucking Gerald Butler played Leonidas with a Scottish accent.
And of course they didn’t care when non-Mediterraneans whites were given roles to play people from the Mediterranean.
“Who are you getting to play a Greek guy from a small island spitting distance from Egypt?”
“After reviewing the candidates, we settled on the most stereotypical Boston Irishman under 60”
I guess they didn’t go with a Skarsgård, which shows some restraint.
Let me guess, his main complaint is the skin tone of Helen of Troy?
… and that a trans person exists.
The nerve of someone existing without his permission.
You could shoot a film set in early sub-saharan Africa, and fuckers like this would still complain that it’s not “historically accurate” if there’s even a single black person in the cast.
How does the CEO of so many corporations have time to fuck around with stuff like this.
Cause CEOs don’t really do anything. All the work gets delegated to other people.
There’s much speculation that Musk’s companies tend to work best when he sticks to attracting attention to them (which he actually does quite well, I guess) but he keeps his nose out of their technicals and business.
And… well, he attracts attention by doing controversial stuff on Twitter.
Being the biggest troll possible is literally his job.
Thank GOD! AFTER that I HOPE Elon and
Child Porn ProducingGROK can make a HISTORICALLY Accurate MARVEL DOOMSDAY! I’m TIRED of seeing Wokeness RUIN History!Sometimes I want to try ketamine but then I see how Elon turned out.
Truly a curse worthy of any story
On the othet hand he is literally the richest person ever to have lived.
On the other hand he is so insecure and sad that not even the global billionaire pedophile ring wants him with.
It’s amazing how it is never enough for him. He gets declared richest man in the world. But no, that’s not good enough, I’m his mind by all rights he really should be worth more than everyone else in the world put together. Technically he was saying this about SpaceX when he was whining after no longer being a trillionaire, but you know it was triggered by his personal “downgrade” back to “mere billionaire” rather than some grand view of SpaceX unrelated to his personal ego.
Is Big Balls still his friend?
Meh, lots of idiots use cannabis too, doesn’t mean you should blame the drug.
Don’t blame ketamine
it literally dumbs you down. when you k-hole it’s a weird feeling of being “detained” on the floor. i guess he has a dom kink if he likes it that much.
when you k-hole it’s a weird feeling of being “detained” on the floor
It’s not like that at all
Could you describe it? Assuming you have experience with it. I love learning about that kind of stuff
erowid.org was a lifesaver for me back in my experimenting days.
Ketamine is a dissociative, so if you take enough to “k-hole,” you aren’t “feeling like you’re detained” anywhere because you aren’t feeling anything about your surroundings. It’s 100% internal (and a wild fucking ride hahah). I prefer it to psychedelics because for me it lacked the anxiety and confusing “weirdness” that almost always comes along with those.
It is also very safe in terms of acute doses. Which is why we literally use it to sedate infants. It’s only bad on your body (bladder) when you use it habitually.
Neat! Thanks for sharing
different folks different strokes.
You’d love the psychonaut wiki then! https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Ketamine#Subjective_effects
See “Experience reports” section for anecdotal examples.
100$ says it’ll never happen. Muskfuck never delivers and even he’s not dumb enough to release whatever monstrosity their shit-tier AI would produce
Are you saying he’s a liar? He said it will happen, and he’ll have a show with a hysterical crowd welcoming the release of The REAL TRUE Odyssey movie, and Tesla’s Level 5 Full Self Driving, and he’ll broadcast this show to the folks who just set foot on Mars!
Bet everything. There’s a zero percent chance this happens, why lowball the bet?
Oh ye of little gullibility
So he’s gonna include achilleus in drag and getting fucked by patroclus, right?
Right?
