[CW: Transmedicalism, (Internalized) Transphobia, Enbyphobia]

I sometimes get into these depressive episodes where I feel like the majority of the trans community is against me and wants me to suffer. As a non-binary person, I’ve had to deal with a heated amount of emphasis from trans people who hate my guts because they don’t perceive my identity as suiting a “norm” they believe I am required to fit.

I have gone through so much hell from cishet people, and one of the worst aspects of this is that it’s insanely isolating. Before horrendous encounters with transmedicalists, I generally had no doubt that the trans community would be pretty universally and even unconditionally on my side. Now, I feel like I’m alone. I feel like I have to avoid trans communities for my own safety and well-being, but I also cannot bring myself to be interacting with cis people because that clearly has done me no good either.

I also have fears about these things from a legal perspective. I am on HRT, I have terrible dysphoria, and I want to get on with my transition and my life, but especially since I live in Florida, I sometimes feel like transmedicalist rhetoric might seep into law in a way that will leave me with two options where either I can:

  • A) Keep my HRT by shoving myself in a “box” that I don’t want to be in because it’ll leave me dysphoric and uncomfortable.

  • B) Just go on without any medical transition, which will, yet again, make me miserable and have me see no point in life.

Both of them are horrendous. I already know that cis people want me dead. Knowing that trans people tend to feel the same way just does zero help for me.

  • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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    3 months ago

    I think some trans folk think if they stealth hard enough they’ll be allowed to be cis.

    They’re wrong, of course. We stand together or we hang separately 💕 ✊

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    3 months ago

    I, somehow, have just recently learned about transmedicalism. It’s truly one of the more toxic ideologies I’ve seen in a long time. In my eyes, anyone who pushes transmedicalism should be immediately thrown out of this, or any trans, community. I’m just glad I’ve yet to meet someone like that.

    Honestly, don’t worry about that in this community. I’m sure I wouldn’t be the only mod to say that we wouldn’t permit such rhetoric to be pushed. In my eyes, you’ll always be welcome here. meow-hug

  • EelBolshevikism [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    3 months ago

    I think transmeds aren’t the majority of the community, they’re just a really fucking annoying part of it. I’m not going to say they’re a “vocal minority” because I don’t want to shut down your feelings, but every trans space I’ve looked except explicit transmed forums (that I stumble upon by grace misfortune) hate transmeds

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      I genuinely want to convince myself that they’re not the majority. If they are the majority, then I have a valid case for being transphobic.

      I don’t necessarily mean this in the “I hate trans people” sense that the term transphobia is commonly associated with but more so in the “I fear trans people” sense that the “-phobia” suffix is commonly associated with.

      Ultimately, if the LGBTQ+ community isn’t for me and cisheteronormative society isn’t for me, I have nothing left.

      Transmedicalists unironically believe that all this pain I’m going through because of me being trans such as dysphoria, losing all my family, and struggling to keep things together to literally just keep myself alive is justified and acceptable simply because I’m non-binary.

      The belief that the majority of trans people are transmedicalists is extremely bleak for me. I will never stop calling myself trans, but the association with a group which holds this ideology will continue to harm me. Hence my desire to hold greater faith in trans people.

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        3 months ago

        Ultimately, if the LGBTQ+ community isn’t for me and cisheteronormative society isn’t for me, I have nothing left.

        Hey, I don’t believe your premise that transmedicalists are the majority, but this isn’t true either way. I’ve met a lot of liberationist/not-cringe trans people in real life. They definitely exist and if the LGBTQ+ community isn’t supporting us because we want our liberation TOO MUCH, then we should build a new one.

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    It’s really overwhelming to deal with bigotry when it’s in the community. I don’t know if transmedicalists are the majority, but I feel like they were a vocal minority. For people that aren’t as online, in queer spaces in particular, they just may not be exposed to gender identities outside the binary and end up falling into some transmed shit. Of course there are also trans people who are incredibly reactionary and fully believe that line of thought too, but I think there’s more trans people who are supportive than not

    Florida is a truly hellish place and I hope you can get out of there one day

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      If people have come out less than 10 years ago, i find that the highest likelyhood of them being transmeds is if they are super ultra fucking online. From my experience, it is completely impossible to go into any offline queer space and not run into nonbinary people. That’s just how it is around here. With most transmeds, i find that they’re boomers or gen Xers … scratch that, physical age is irrelevant here, what matters is when you came out. I know 60 year olds who aren’t transmeds, but they came out during the last couple of years. When i say boomers or Gen Xers, i mean people who started transitioning in the most nightmarish gatekeeping era. At its core, classic transmedicalism is a kind of maldadaptive coping / survival mechanism - when you transitioned in the 70s or 80s or 90s, it was actually mandatory to at least pretend that you think of your transness as a pathology, to desire a highly binary and especially very gender conforming presentation to prove your validity, to not scare transhomophobes who believed in junk science like AGP, and many trans elders didn’t just pretend that, they internalized all of that. That shit’s not entirely gone outside of informed consent clinics in the US and Canada, i still have to navigate gatekeeping, i still have to hide from my health insurance that i’m actually nonbinary, but i can at least say to a therapist i like other girls and hate patriarchal expectations towards women and fems and i can talk about things like gender euphoria and being proud to be trans and defining gender for myself and all that jazz without having my trans card revoked. I can talk freely to medical professionals about most of my experience without risking access to vaginoplasty. And that’s just not how things were back in the day. These people didn’t have that freedom and some of them find it hard to accept that we have it easier today. It’s tragic, actually.

      But then there’s the kids who end up on 4chan while they’re eggs and who crack on /tttt/ and who crawl around the margins of trans subreddits. That’s not actually a big crowd, and i find them to be entirely fucking irrelevant irl because they are not part of any actual organizing on the ground trans community i’ve ever seen, which is not surprising given that they are mortally afraid of being seen around queer people and have this tendency to still boymode after 5 years on HRT and breast augmentation surgery (i wish i was joking) because there may still be a less than 0 chance somebody might clock them, but their extremely online nature gives them the opportunity to heavily poison trans communities on social media, and they inject some extremely harmful discourse into wider trans spaces, especially when it comes to toxic believes around the whole “it’s over” thing (if you do not know, do not look it up, in fact never look up anything these people talk about, especially when it has to do with bones).

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        the highest likelyhood of them being transmeds is if they are super ultra fucking online.

        I don’t fully agree with that. This is just my personal experience but I’ve met a few pretty close minded trans people offline. I feel like I have to do more work offline sometimes than online. Especially about anyone that isn’t explicitly she/he/they pronouns.

        Though maybe it’s more toxicity is online and offline and an unfortunate part of the world.

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          Funnily enough, I only met really one insufferable and bigoted trans person in real life. It’s interesting how it was at a psych ward. It was an older and devoutly Christian trans woman who was uncomfortable with me because I’m non-binary.

      • Angel [any]@hexbear.netOPM
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        3 months ago

        You fucking nailed it. I literally browsed /tttt/ for ages before I knew I was getting too many brainworms. The fact that I still fear that transmedicalists are a hefty chunk of trans people shows that I still have 'em to an extent.