Im being serious. The left needs to embrace a “do as I say not as I do” attitude towards our leaders, with great power comes a large amount of treats and who are we to judge Hasan for not living up to the ideals that he sets out for us. In fact I think its good that he doesnt do what he says, it means you are willing to follow him, when he does not care about you, it shows one true ideological devotion to the cause. Please give your eyes and your capital to Hasan, he needs it more than you, and do not have original ideas or question him at all. Free thinkers will get banned in the twitch chat. And please, do not drink the Coca Cola even if dear leader is doing it. Inshallah Hasan is divine in nature!

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    I honestly can’t tell if this is serious or dripping in like 4 layers of irony and sarcasm and whatever, but in any case, let’s all just go touch grass today. Just go sit outside for like 30 minutes with no phone.

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    Post: Hasan drank coke products, which he’s previously promoted a boycott of. Here’s a clip of him promoting the boycott. Here’s a clip of him drinking coke.

    Wow thanks OP that was so informative I appreciate you shedding light on this definitely very important issue with linked receipts. Very good and normal response that makes me believe you.

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        There’s no ethical consumption under capitalism so I can lie about whatever and its whatever. Boycotting and not boycotting is the same. There’s no difference between good and bad things under capitalism. Only money. Fuck you. Like and subscribe.

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    Please give your eyes and your capital to Hasan

    The funniest thing about this kind of troll posting is that they always try to substitute in Marxist terminology in place of regular words in ways that don’t make any sense. It would be so much easier for you to just say that you haven’t read any Marx and that you don’t like Hasan without having to create a post with 17 layers of irony. You are embarrassing. You post as if you are a superior leftist but don’t understand even basic Marxist concepts.

    Money and Capital are not interchangeable terms. Capital is a specific type of money. Money is only Capital if it is used for the purpose of buying commodities which increase in value and then are sold for a profit. If you spend money on a candybar and then you eat that candybar, then it is not capital. If you watch a stream and give money to a streamer, it is just money, not capital. Most people don’t have capital or at least in a significant way.

    The simplest form of the circulation of commodities is C—M—C, the transformation of commodities into money, and the change of the money back again into commodities; or selling in order to buy. But alongside of this form we find another specifically different form: M—C—M, the transformation of money into commodities, and the change of commodities back again into money; or buying in order to sell. Money that circulates in the latter manner is thereby transformed into, becomes capital, and is already potentially capital.

    Now let us examine the circuit M—C—M a little closer. It consists, like the other, of two antithetical phases. In the first phase, M—C, or the purchase, the money is changed into a commodity. In the second phase, C—M, or the sale, the commodity is changed back again into money. The combination of these two phases constitutes the single movement whereby money is exchanged for a commodity, and the same commodity is again exchanged for money; whereby a commodity is bought in order to be sold, or, neglecting the distinction in form between buying and selling, whereby a commodity is bought with money, and then money is bought with a commodity. [2] The result, in which the phases of the process vanish, is the exchange of money for money, M—M. If I purchase 2,000 lbs. of cotton for £100, and resell the 2,000 lbs. of cotton for £110, I have, in fact, exchanged £100 for £110, money for money.

    What, however, first and foremost distinguishes the circuit C—M—C from the circuit M—C—M, is the inverted order of succession of the two phases. The simple circulation of commodities begins with a sale and ends with a purchase, while the circulation of money as capital begins with a purchase and ends with a sale. In the one case both the starting-point and the goal are commodities, in the other they are money. In the first form the movement is brought about by the intervention of money, in the second by that of a commodity.

    https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch04.htm
    https://www.marxists.org/glossary/terms/c/a.htm#capital

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    It’s really not a good thing that I’m beginning to recognize your username on sight for having the most annoying takes. Some like this are kinda funny, but you have also been sincerely advocating for plenty of harmful shit (like when you claimed innocent workers on the Baltimore bridge collapse deserved to die) as well. I encourage you to either take your, well, takes to c/badposting or stop wrecking, honestly.

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      This has echoes of some past struggle sessions here, where people get really attached to their parasocial youtubers and streamers and defend their shitty actions, but I can’t tell if this is a wrecker post trying to start a big argument, or if they’re just passive-aggressively venting about someone else’s actions instead of being upfront with them. Or if they are just trying to make people laugh with a bit. I’m just confused.

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        i think it’s even more online, which is that this person emphatically does NOT like Hasan, but sees their ‘identity’ as an online leftist being linked to him cos of other leftists watching him, and now has the need to run to the internet to rub it in everyone’s face that ‘their’ person did something wrong, and therefore you are being a ‘bad’ leftists by liking Hasan, meaning I can discount you as being a part of the thing I identify with and leaving me as the true leftist

        it’s extremely online, especially with trying to turn it around into this smug, sarcastic rhetorical thing where they’re preemptively on the attack against their ‘Hasan stan’ boogeyman

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          Oh yeah it might be. I was hoping it was a bit or something. Damn. I’m a terminally online communist and I barely know who this guy is, if I didn’t hear people complaining about him I probably wouldn’t know anything about him at all. This is very much a “touch grass” moment then, but more importantly, a “talk to people” moment. Hasan is a nobody, no one cares about him other than his very small fanbase and a group of people who are online too much caring way, way too much about him. He’s not like a Ben Shapiro or Jordan Peterson type, who does actively hold some influence in the real world with “normies.”

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            Absolutely a bit. This is a couple layers, too. Ultimately, when you look at their other posting, and probable past accounts, they’re making fun of this site and kind of satirizing it. They’re often fishing for the line of what kind of unhinged take people here will believe could be coming from a member of the community sincerely or be accepted.

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        This has echoes of some past struggle sessions here, where people get really attached to their parasocial youtubers and streamers and defend their shitty actions

        Not denying this happens here, but I’ll be honest this site feels 10x better about it than most, especially reddit-logo . If anything I’d argue we have some users who go a bit too far in the opposite direction where they seem really dedicated to finding any and all reasons to hate any left leaning public figure. Even if they’re usually right they get a bit to… fervent about it.

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          Yeah, usually the actions being defended are things like “This lib had a very lib take” and not actual fucked up shit that I’ve seen defended or “rationalised” elsewhere.

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            Hot take: I think this impulse we have here to try and make sure everyone and everything we like is sufficiently “leftist” is silly and a waste of time. Liberalism is the dominant ideology of the day, most people are Libs. I’ve just accepted a lot of people I like are Libs. I don’t get the need to scour the social media of every random video game reviewer or whatever I like to make sure they’ve never had a Lib take and then post here when I inevitably find one. Just enjoy their video on why Stardew Valley is good and focus on more productive shit.

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              Yeah, I just don’t pretend streamers I watch are personal friends, I treat them they same way I would any other entertainer. It doesn’t seem hard, but for some reason people get really personally attached to them and defend them like they’re people they know in real life.

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                Even if they WERE my friends, I have plenty of friends who are Libs, I wouldn’t have any friends where I live if I insisted only only befriending people as left as me. You don’t have to defend their Lib takes, just accept their Libs and move on.

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                  Yeah, exactly. If you want friends, you need to tolerate lib bullshit, I was stuck listening to a half hour conversation about the new live action avatar recently, and they kept talking about fan theories and stuff and my libbest friend shared their performative lib ideas about Sokka not having an arc where he stops being sexist being a good thing because it removes “controversy.” It was so damn mind-numbing.

                  But they’re my libs and I love them.

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        The only posts worth posting are ones that will piss off at least half of the people reading them, completely unironically.

        I specifically like hexbear because (except for the dunk tank) it isn’t like this. Hot take, but I sometimes like to read stuff that won’t piss me off. Please don’t post only to troll, that shit suuuuuucks

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        Bruh they posted about a streamer people here barely care about and everyone promptly rolled their eyes and dogpiled on the stupid low effort troll for fun. It’s not the own you think it is.