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Amoxtli to news@hexbear.netEnglish · 1 year ago

Biden's EV tariffs may not be enough to stave off the threat of Chinese vehicles in the U.S.

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Biden's EV tariffs may not be enough to stave off the threat of Chinese vehicles in the U.S.

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Automotive and trade experts say the increased tariffs are a near-term protectionism act that may delay but not stop Chinese EVs from coming to the U.S.
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  • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
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    “Threat” of small efficient evs that produce less carbon.

    “Threat”.

    Evs aren’t even close to a solution to global warming, but normal people think they are. “Threat”.

    America’s ruling class is an existential threat to industrial civilization.

    • FourteenEyes [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      The threat is to the big line which is all that matters

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
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        The market is their god.

        • SkingradGuard [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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          If it was really their God they’d allow total free trade between all nations without restriction.

          • CarbonScored [any]@hexbear.net
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            True, the free market isn’t their god. Just the market that caters for the current members of the bourgeoisie, all else be damned.

          • TheDoctor [they/them]@hexbear.net
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            Capital is a vengeful demon that must be muzzled and leashed or it will destroy everything in its path.

            • btfod [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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              I once ran across an essay describing Capitalism as the manifestation of an evil eldritch god, and… it kinda worked for me. I’ll be fucked if I can find a link to it now, though. Just wanted to comment that I agree wholeheartedly

              • TheDoctor [they/them]@hexbear.net
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                I think it’s a good metaphor for what the state does for capital. Capitalism by its nature destroys cultural signifiers by co-opting them over and over until they become meaningless. It can’t afford to do the things humans have historically done to preserve culture over long periods of time. It needs growth and therefore it needs the speed at which culture transforms to accelerate. It acts a lot like an intrusive species, burning through its food source and destroying the balance of the ecosystem. The state acts like an insulator, slowing this process and making it more sustainable.

                • btfod [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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                  Thanks for giving me something to ponder when I’m next at the orb. We need an exterminator instead of a shepherd.

              • Tom742 [they/them, any]@hexbear.net
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                https://ianwrightsite.wordpress.com/2020/09/03/marx-on-capital-as-a-real-god-2/

                Possibly this one, it speaks to me as well

                • btfod [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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                  This was it! Many thanks, bookmarking this time!

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    reminder that in 2012 obama set a 250% tariff on solar panels and china responded by conter-tariffing american polysilicon, resulting in it cratering from 50% global production to under 5% global production, meanwhile chinese solar industry went exponential

    • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      Biden like “I vaguely remember Obama doing something like this right before he won re-election, maybe it’ll work for me”

      Who am I kidding, he doesn’t remember what month it is without an aide

  • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    “Threat”

    Lmao

  • Hestia [she/her, fae/faer]@hexbear.net
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    100% tariff? Aight.

    They’ll just make it 101% cheaper

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      You could in fact double the MSRP of many Chinese EVs due to tarriffs and they would still be a better value than 80% of the trash EVs America and Europe puts out.

      • Hestia [she/her, fae/faer]@hexbear.net
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        You talking shit about my cyber truck? Well I’ll have you know I EARNED it by literally sucking Elon’s definitely not small penis

  • SwitchyWitchyandBitchy [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    How about we counter the “threat” of Chinese EVs with accessible, comfortable, and fast public transport?

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      Well that doesn’t sound very profit margins! Let’s continue relaxing classifications and safety regs on big cars (take a shot every time something is labelled a LIGHT TRUCK to skirt safety rules) and not make anything small or affordable. American dream! biden-troll

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      deleted by creator

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    It’s not just the elcrric vehicles either our entire auto industry depends on not letting companies that aren’t dumb as fuck sell cars here.

    If those light kei trucks werent outlawed here it would kill of three separate vehicle markets because they’re better work trucks than America’s trucks, better commuters than an 8 seat suv being driven by one person and they cost a third of our “cheap” cars

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      If those light kei trucks were outlawed here

      weren’t?


      Additional context on why foreign small trucks are not present in the American market: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_tax (25% tariff on foreign light trucks)

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        25% extra on a light truck would still be cheaper than the current monstrosities

        must also involve certification like how they have to destroy X of the vehicles in crash testing or something

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          yeah those trucks do exist here. you seem them on occassion and id say they are even becoming a bit more common

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            I think as long as it’s more than 25 years old you can import them

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              ah, so a chinese ev from 1999? yeah, uh, about that

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                oh I thought we were talking about kei trucks. my bad

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                  oh i responded but didnt see the context i assumed it was about evs because the messages doesnt show the convo chain i just went off the post title

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    inshallah let the free hand of the market decide!!!

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    The economic analysts on BBC went the extra mile to drill into the brain of listeners that this move was NOT protectionism, but political. Biden knows if he wants those Nikki Haley Republicans to vote for him, he has to go hard on China. Also some nuance trolling citations-needed

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    Tariffs always seem like a pretty limp dick response to me… Especially because they are always enacted by people that jizz themselves at the idea of the free market.

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    So…does this mean companies are going to get punished for sending jobs overseas?

    Protectionism for me but not for thee

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      only if they deal in those specific products, which they dont, so no

  • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    GOOD I want a Chinese vehicle

  • Evilphd666 [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    Love to see the empire defend the rest of the world leap frogging ahead of us.

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    God please let China flood the US with cheap EVs I want one so bad

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