Last week, top ICE officials ordered officers to increase arrests and to get “creative” in their methods, including trying to nab people the officers happen to encounter in what are known as “collateral arrests.” The orders come in the wake of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem and White House deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller setting a quota of 3,000 immigration arrests per day, along with a sharp rise in protests against the crackdown.

In Westbury, the HSI agents didn’t respond to the gathered crowd. After a few minutes, the agents drove away. A commotion erupted down the road, off-camera, and onlookers began rushing toward the corner.

One of the Nissans, carrying two of the HSI agents, had crashed into a black pickup truck that happened to be passing through the intersection. Three eyewitnesses told The Intercept that the agents’ car had sped away. Two of the witnesses believe the Nissan blew a stop sign, causing the crash. (Nassau County police referred questions about the accident to ICE, which did not respond to an inquiry.)

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    I feel bad for the car.

    It could’ve helped a member of the working class.

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    Their ‘collateral arrests’ game is going to get the plain clothed ICE agents killed. Don’t blame the public when it happens. Blame the Border Czar.

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      It’s an effective tactic that conservatives have been employing for decades.

      The reason they hate schools so much is because they can’t infiltrate them. They can’t infiltrate them because they’re genuinely too stupid to compete in academia, and even the ruling class recognizes how an effective educational system is needed to maintain their dominance.

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      it’s not clear from the except whether the nissan was a personal or federal vehicle (and I’m not clicking through more than one screen of cookies/adblock nonsense to read the rest of it)

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        I don’t think I’ve ever seen a federal car that wasn’t Ford, Chevrolet, or Dodge, you know, American brands. I mean there has to be some but I haven’t seen one.

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    I’m thinking that if ICE et al keeps this up, pretty soon random people are gonna start taking sneaky potshots at them. Amongst many, many other things, these dipshits are actively making their own jobs wildly more dangerous.

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      100%. We should be encouraging them without identifying them.

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      That would bring the military into our communities even quicker. Seems like a very bad idea.

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        Oh shit, yeah. Can’t have the military in our communities.

        checks outside that would be even wirse than those guys in camo and modern gear holding rifles stranding around. The grey painted armored vehivles with doohickeys on the roof. Much less scary than having the military in my community.

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          Sniping ICE agents would make things much worse much more quickly.

          Maybe the progression of violence is inevitable, but once you start killing pigs, it will all happen very quickly.

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            If you’re afraid of attacking their person, then attack their property.

            We can all work together to make sure ICE agents don’t get nice suburban houses that aren’t covered in eggs and toilet paper.

            We can all work together to make sure their tires don’t have air in them as often as possible.

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              Look man, I am a protesting, pro-physical intervention, pro-whatever it takes leftist. All I’m saying is random people shooting at ICE is going to end protest and resistance, and begin the part where the government shoots and kills protestors and resistance on sight.

              If you think that’s the best plan, that’s fine. I do not. I think there is more that needs to happen before the shooting starts.

              I own many guns. I practice with them. I have thousands of rounds of ammunition. When the government starts shooting people, I will decide if I’m ready to die to protect my family and community.

              But I’m not gonna kill myself and dozens of others by foolishly “taking a pot shot” at these fucking nazis.

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    ICE really does seem like the new SS. As a European it’s scary as fuck to watch the world’s most powerful state turn fascist.

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      As an American, the scariest part is how little most seem to care about it. Well, that and the fascism.

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      Try being an American citizen with a history degree. I know where this leads, and I’m terrified.

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        I feel like my history teachers tried to warn us about this, but they couldn’t say it directly and most of us didn’t take the hint.

        “Does history repeat itself?”

        “Those who don’t learn from history are destined to repeat it.”

        What they’re really trying to get their students thinking is “do we learn from history?” And the answer is a big, fat, fuck no.

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          Actually, I have considered that, wanting to avoid being the same kind of victim of partisan propaganda as stupid Conservatives. This is especially important to me, as I have been an Unaffiliated Independent since first registering to vote in 1977. It important to me to not succumb to the propaganda of either side.

          My self-reflection has determined to my personal satisfaction that I am not shrill, I’m not an alarmist, and I’m not a commie. I have a history degree, 30 years of professional experience, and have closely watched the rise of extremist Conservatism since the mid-80s, so I am very comfortable offering my opinions with confidence. I don’t worry about acceptance from MAGA Nazi Traitors. I couldn’t care less about their treasonous, shallow, ignorant, violent, political opinions.

          My education, knowledge, and experience has led me to believe that we are facing a divide in America as bad as the Civil War, and very possibly worse. The MAGAs are clearly taking their strategies from the Nazi Germany Playbook, and want to murder vast swathes of Americans. To recognize and warn others about it is not shrill, alarmist, or “commie,” and it is not lost on me that you are attempting to shame me into silence.

          It won’t work. Indies like me aren’t afraid in the least of Cowardly Nazi Traitors like you. We know what you are up to, and we will stop you.

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      To see the Canadian government start pushing bills on immigration that are similar to those put in place to allow all this to happen in the US is terrifying as well. We voted in hopes of fending off this fascist takeover and yet here we are with Drumpfkins next door and our own “left” cooking the country.

      The citizens of the world are under fire everywhere from fascism and even Nazism. We all need to stand up and fight back no matter where we live.

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      Steven Miller is apparently having screaming meltdowns about how more and more and more “immigrants” must be arrested/deported. Miller is likely the person who is actually our acting president right now with Trump as a chaotic front to keep people distracted from this.

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        Stephen “PeeWee Himmler” Miller has far too much power. He is HitlerPig’s Wormtail Wormtongue, whispering poison in his ear. He’s hidden in the shadows for far too long like the creepy lizard he is. It’s time to focus on him, assign his atrocities to him, and start attacking him. He needs to be run out of the administration and the government.

        Edit: Sorry, got my fantasy bad guys mixed up.

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      And “anti-law enforcement agitators” = non-whites who don’t want their children kidnapped.

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          Yeah, they are. Dehumanization is not okay “if my side is doing it.”

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            I think you’re attacking the symptom rather than the disease.

            And i think they chose inhumanity. To call them human would not only be an insult to us, but disregarding their own self identification and chosen identity. Imposing that identity against its will seems a violation of its autonomy.

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              “They chose inhumanity”

              Jesus fucking Christ… You really think you have the high ground with this kind of thinking, don’t you?

              Hate only breeds hate. When you dehumanize your enemies, you already lost.

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    I watched most of the video clip. The agents all look kinda perplexed. As if they can’t understand that nearly any species alive will go nuts when you go for their offspring.

    Guys, I think ICE agents are aliens.

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      I think it’s a case of psychopathy and the fact that some of these people TRULY don’t see black and brown people as people. The dehumanization is truly complete to the point that they really don’t understand that they’re PEOPLE, with thoughts and feelings.

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        Psychopaths understand people a lot better than these ice agents. These are garden variety sociopaths at best

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      Well, they’re supposed to snatch innocent people, kids, break apart families, so I think it’s granted they must be some kind of sadistic psychopaths.

      After that, the way they try to get around the illegality of what they’re doing suggests they’re also very, very, very dumb.

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        Exactly. Joining ice is the easiest way to show the world you’re antisocial, racist and have zero emotional intelligence. These people wouldn’t know empathy if it slapped someone else across the face

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          These people wouldn’t know empathy if it slapped someone else across the face

          Brilliantly put

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      I didn’t see a video on the archived site, didn’t want to subscribe with an email to see the page. Does the video cover their acts and the following crash? Weighing my interests, maybe I’ll find it elsewhere

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        The video is an embedded FB live video.

        Heres the link

        Edit: linking to the video on FB doesn’t seem to work. But there’s no validation, so you can sign up using any email. I was able to watch it after entering the email [email protected]

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        Not the crash itself. But the direct aftermath. They see something happened down the street and start going there.

        As for the agents fuckery, they get yelled at on the street outside the school and look like shocked deer at an approaching car.