• db2@lemmy.world
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    16 hours ago

    Fuck anyone who dances for Trump, including Afroman. I’m glad he won, it was the only correct outcome, but he can fuck off.

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      14 hours ago

      Yeah, that picture kills the appreciation of Afroman pretty much entirely - and I’m quite sad about that…

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      I’m not defending Afroman here, and 2024 you don’t get the “I didn’t know” pass, but, dudes a weed libertarian, not to be taken very seriously in the first place. Seems like he wasn’t very politically engaged before then.

      Like Ron and Rand Paul, and broken clocks, and all libertarians, they are right twice a day, and they loooove crowing about it.

      Let ‘em. The idea he’s promoting in this case is correct.

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      All presidents are evil. Bill Clinton embargoed Iraq to shift the news cycle off of his blowjob, and it killed a million children who had dependence on imported medical supplies.

      Trump isn’t special. Just one more cunt.

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    Why in the fuck are we praising patriotism here? It’s literally just religious-like devotion to a nation state, and basically result of nationalism

    Without knowing either of those people, they might be just as patriotic and it’s equally as bad.

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      I’m patriotic in the sense that I want what is best for my countrymen. I want that to be done in a manner where both me and my country are ethical and productive members of our global society.

      This has nothing to do with blind, religious-like devotion.

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      “Nationalism is an infantile disease, it is the measles of mankind.”

      That being said, a lot of “normies” use patriotism as a stand-in for a certain set of beliefs. I don’t love it but the “Shining City on the Hill” is better than the Third Reich.

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      14 hours ago

      Wanting to improve your society is a form of patriotism.

      America are the ones who have convinced everyone it’s the opposite

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        Yeah it’s so fucking backwards. I should be considered a patriot. I want Americans to have access to Healthcare and education. I want Americans to thrive and do great things. But no… Apparently the definition of patriotism over here is “I don’t care about other people, I only care about me, and also, kill brown people in other countries”

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        14 hours ago

        patriotism /pā′trē-ə-tĭz″əm/ noun

        Love of and devotion to one’s country.

        Love of country; devotion to the welfare of one’s country; the virtues and actions of a patriot; the passion which inspires one to serve one’s country.

        Love of country; devotion to the welfare of one’s compatriots; the virtues and actions of a patriot; the passion which inspires one to serve one’s country.

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          Improving your country IS serving it. Non Americans do it all the time, the act just isn’t associated with the word because the US has a media industry built to hijack the meaning of things. Don’t make me start talking all pro-social and hope pilled, I’m not that guy anymore.

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      11 hours ago

      Why in the fuck are we praising patriotism here?

      Because it’s a shitpost? We’re not on .ml, and this isn’t a politics thread.

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          As bad as things are in the current moment I’m not sure theres a strong case that living under a literal monarchy with zero Democratic representation and no meaningful civil liberties was better 😅

          The handful of merits of the American establishment may be currently disintegrating under the wright of neo-fascism, but the establishment the founders built, explicitly flawed though it was/is, is definitely a better establishment than imperialist monarchical British rule

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            I think the millions of slaves in America would disagree when the British empire outlawed slavery 30 years earlier without having a civil war over the issue.

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              I am not the most knowledgeable on this subject but didnt they just do what amounts to slavery in their colonies like in India? They had colonial rule over India until like sometime in the 1900s didn’t they? Like they were an imperial nation, I’m not sure it really matters if the the exploitation and bloodshed happened within their own landmass, but perhaps I don’t know the history of england very well

              I just checked and Ireland didn’t gain independence until 1949. I think the idea that the British empire and it’s monarchy is better than the democracy that extended its benefits only to white men is kind of a hard sell. Its the British empire 😅

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    Ironically, this is a rare instance where the guy plastered with flags is indeed the patriot

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        apparently he talked with Trump about legalization. he explicitly said “don’t take that photo as support” and will probably use it as an “i was on stage with Trump 'cause I got high” lyric in his song because honestly, it would explain a lot. ever do something because you think it’ll look funny later and then it turns out you just met hitler? because i have a couple photos from the 90s I can show NOBODY. afroman’s from another time.

        i can’t remember when i saw afroman, because i was high, but it was a good show

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          sounds like a convenient excuse.

          last time I was high I didn’t do anything unless I wanted to do it.

          point is, if you don’t want your picture taken with a pedophile and convicted rapist, then maybe don’t pose with them? or, at the very least, don’t fucking smile like you’re having a great time.

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            my dude you are describing a nonfunctional high. afroman is high when he is out and about. there’s some kind of functional in there but i don’t want to read too much into a situation i don’t know much about.

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                How dare they associate with them that one time my dude do you hear yourself? I do not like defending Trump associates but like, draw a line. I have talked with some pretty awful people. Same calibur bad. Convicted same calibur bad. Where do you rank me for having done outreach so prisoners still get to feel human? Gran worked as a nurse in some of the worst prisons. Everyone deserves dignity and respect, full stop. No conditions or parameters.

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                  you know. I was going to give you the benefit of the doubt and just assume you were just trying to be neutral. but honesty the fact that you believe that everyone can attain salvation in this context means are possibly one of three things.

                  1. a “born again Christian”
                  2. a troll
                  3. a pedophile apologist

                  in either case I believe all those types of people are cancer upon society and deserve to be called out as the giant pieces of shit they are.

                  everyone is not deserving of dignity and respect. everyone is not deserving of love. there are some crimes against decency and humanity that just cannot be forgiven, ever.

                  crimes like raping children, killing children, trafficking children, torturing children, I think you get the general idea.

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      No. It’s against flag code, but there is no real law or enforcement of the flag code. If you do break it, I will immediately assume you are not a patriot and instead you are a nationalist because you didn’t take the ~5 minutes to look up the flag code.

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      I think its against the flag code to wear an actual flag as clothes. Not to wear clothes that look like a flag.

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      The flag itself, but not clothes designed to look like the flag.

      IOW: if you’re caught in a sitcom type situation where you lock yourself outside of your house and the only thing you have available to cover your fetus production apparatus is the stars and stripes you fly on your front porch because you’re a jingoistic weirdo, you’re going to be breaking the law one way or the other.

      Conversely, the above fashion faux pas is as legal as brandishing military equipment while shopping in some of the more backwards parts of the country.