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HarryLime [any]@hexbear.net to Slop.@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 days ago

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  • SmithrunHills [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Breadtube did such a good job of (unintentionally) revealing the limits of western “leftist” analysis, which regularly struggles to include staunch anti-imperialism. The fact that someone like Ms. Rachel can provide so much momentum for the Pro-Palestine cause just from simply advocating for not wanting kids to get blown up, while so called “progressives” are still twiddling their thumbs and have either taken the side of liberal Zionists or continue to remain silent should be a strong indictment

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    I always found her judgmental and preachy, but the fact that she is being gullible about all US policy since she has been enchanted by Hillary Clinton is also stupid which I didn’t think before.

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    Iran-Contrapoints

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      kelly

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    She’s also been attacking Ms. Rachel. At this point she’s just a symbol for how most of Breadtube ended up.

    • FlakesBongler [they/them]@hexbear.net
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      Going after the closest thing the USA has to a living saint is a Pro-Gamer move

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      She’s been attacking Ms. Rachael?! I thought she sucked before but now I wish death on her. Ms. Rachael is a fucking paragon of humanity and principle, two things Iran-Contrapoints has no understanding of. I hope she gets hit by a bus

    • ClathrateG [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      for what??

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        I haven’t seen this, but when you consider her infamous post about how sharing stories of the victims of Israel’s genocide doesn’t actually help anyone and only spreads antisemitism, I can imagine what she might have said about Ms. Rachel, who does share such stories.

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          ‘Reports from soviet soldiers about the concentration camps doesnt help the war effort and only increases anti-german sentiment, theyve already had to suffer through the renaming of Sauerkraut to Liberty Cabbage, must they suffer more?’

    • Carcharodonna [she/her]@hexbear.net
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      EJ is still cool at least

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    Natalie Fetterman

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    Rest in Piss “Breadtube,” you had a lot of great things to say about bideo-games, movie, and internet drama, but not so much about genocide or imperialism. Fuck “Nebula” too (though I do enjoy FD Signifier I admit).

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      i haven’t seen any solidarity in my paypiggies, but i’ve seen the house they bought

      • unknown breadtuber
    • cisco [they/them]@hexbear.net
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      It’s easy being a cultural critic. All you gotta do is scroll on timtok for 7 hours then make a 40 minute video extrapolating a random internet trend to real life society and psychoanalyze it

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      There are some other decent people on Nebula, like Jacob Geller and Little Joel and so on

      • Le_Wokisme [they/them, undecided]@hexbear.net
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        did nobody have solidarity with JT getting kicked out?

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          I forgot about that, but it’s worth noting that he had this stance on it: https://x.com/_SecondThought/status/1849071434703708223

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      yeah im pretty much in the same boat. fuck nebula, but FD is cool from what i’ve seen

    • SchillMenaker [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      Aw damn, I was hoping I found a new channel to watch and it turns out it’s the guy I started watching six months ago.

  • upmysleeves [she/her, any]@hexbear.net
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    When you believe in nothing:

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      oh come now, she believes in us-foreign-policy

  • sictransitgloria [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    I actually hate American people

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      and i’m sick of pretending i don’t

      • Evilphd666 [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        I am sick of being an American.

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          big mood

        • Le_Wokisme [they/them, undecided]@hexbear.net
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          it’s cheaper to renounce our citizenship now at least.

          • ziggurter [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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            I mean, you can basically just find an ICE officer to flip off and then refuse to show your papers! Universal free accessible unciticizenship!

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            bloomer

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    How can you pay to study philosophy, make enough millions you don’t need to ever again lick any boot to be considered a RespectedPhilosopherTM and yet choose to be a fucking idiot and a sleazebag

    • ziggurter [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      How else to get the Shillery KKKlinton collab? confused-glee

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      She’s just always been a lib. She just seemed further left at the time when she got popular because of how dominant right wing YouTubers were

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        She had genuinely good anti-capitlasit videos at one point. So it feels weird that it was just a phase for her

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          I think she’s self aware and made the choice of money and self-interest. She knows exactly what the left’s points are but she wanted to be mainstream and taken seriously as a figure in media rather than shunned off to the side by establishment media.

          The thing is that she cut her teeth creating a left wing audience and everyone fucking hates her for that turn which causes her a lot of emotional distress and affects her motivation to do anything. So she just sorta floats and does nothing now.

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            Her ex, philosophy tube is meanwhile doing the grift better and has landed some minor Hollywood roles.

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              They dated? That’s fucked up.

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                Ill just post a screenshot from the reddit thread that came up when I tried to Google how I knew this.

                Here’s the full thread. There is a lot of bullshit in this, but I think its safe to believe they did date

                https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/1boxqe8/whats_going_on_with_philosophytube_and/

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                  If there was no sexual assault involved how the fuck could she “me too” them??? Contra is such a piece of shit.

                  PhilosophyTube too though is just an intellectual. Socdem barely demsoc in attitude. People with that behaviour are not revolutionary and always sheepdog people.

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                  A Reddit link was detected in your comment. Here are links to the same location on alternative frontends that protect your privacy.

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    • purpleworm [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      She’s basically in the same position as normal establishment shill pop-academics but with even less credibility or qualification.

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      I remember hearing she mostly studied Kant and then dropped out. That does follow

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      Probably all the philosophy study tbh

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      Millions? Really? Did she make that much you think?

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        There’s a lot of patreon piggies out there and time runs fast, she became famous ten years ago.

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        I’d be surprised if she didn’t, that’s pretty standard for the modern popular ““influencer””

        She apparently has about 22k paying patreon members which means she’s making at least $44000 a month on patreon, almost certainly closer to double that, and that’s before considering any money she makes from actually doing stuff

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    what does she think “this” is?

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    What fool would have possibly thought, under any circumstances, that the US was at all in this for the Iranians? What the fuck’s wrong with you if you think that an empire which has long subsisted off of the backs of others would ever care for any people anywhere? They treat their own poor like vermin, to be put down should they be an inconvenience to anyone

    People take this clown seriously?

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      Sooooo many Iranian diaspora believed this. I don’t understand how you could trust them knowing anything about the history of your own family’s country and what the US and Britain have done there multiple times.

      I tried not to drag my own friends down when they were posting propaganda about freedom during the protests or right after the assassination of the Supreme leader by getting into an argument, but all I could do is shake my head to myself. This was so predictable that the US would escalate this into the destruction of the country. Aaaand now they’re aiming for civilian infrastructure.

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      People take this clown seriously?

      Decreasingly so these days, thankfully.

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      how the fuck did she get from making a video about how “the west” isn’t a coherent thing to that take?

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        Makes sense if you consider that her “the West isn’t a thing” might come from a place closer to “I don’t see color” than from a principled “your notion of racial/cultural superiority is built on oppression and lies” position.

        Unfortunately a lot of people saw stuff like, “she has a Tabby character (uwu) and knows some leftist jargon” and neglected to notice that such things were just foils used to reinforce her liberalism and shit on leftism. And she kind of reinforced such misunderstandings by adopting an ambiguous and “philosophic” (5D chess philosophy) air that people bowed down to as lofty and intellectual (I am very mysterious!). Aesthetics with no clearly expressed principles is truly the modern breeding ground for see-what-you-want-and-defend-it-to-the-death online fandom.

        • Le_Wokisme [they/them, undecided]@hexbear.net
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          yeah tabby was never her thesis, even when tabby was actually correct and contra was wrong

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        She got a little cash and fame and lost perspective because she never had any solid theory undergirding her beliefs

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    Damn, the US used the promise of “human rights” and “liberation from a tyrannical regime” to placate liberals while committing unimaginable horror? Who could have seen that coming?

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    I won’t act like this is a “Contrapoints is finally done” thing but it’s helpful to have statements from her that have no conceivable interpretation except for something so foolish that even normal liberals would laugh at it.

    The US did not “fuck up” anything except in terms of military incompetence. The terrorism is the point.

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      The US did not “fuck up” anything except in terms of military incompetence. The terrorism is the point.

      trump doesn’t have a plan and obviously that’s the thing we care about. John Kerry reporting for duty.

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    The world of liberals must be full of stunning and amazing suprises that somehow no one could have predicted.

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    jesus christ natalie people are dying

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      White people?

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        yeah, even some US boots are dying, that’s probably what’s bothering her

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