• Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    This is why I have a Framework laptop with modular ports.

    I can change which ports my laptop has, and on which side it has them, at will. No struggle

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    This is why you get a adapter stick that has C to micro, C to A, C to Thunder, and a card reader.

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    Man, you are the superior one, because you are still using a real Computer

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      Macs are actually pretty secure. Especially with their TPM stuff. It’s the everything else that sucks about them

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        Emotionally insecure.

        But yes. My wife was an Apple girl for a long time. She just bought herself a used Pixel 9Pro XL (identical to mine) to use with Graphene OS, and gave me the green light to wipe her Macbook for Linux.

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      It’s rather Apple who is incompatible with the rest of the world. Any other bluetooth device can transfer files with other bluetooth devices.

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      What’s rather ironic is my Linux FOSS setup is more compatible than ever because it can open my students .notes and .pages files, while MS Word couldn’t.

      And naturally, I’m proud of using FOSS so I guess I’m proud to be compatible with everything.

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        What are you using for .pages? I have .docx covered but have a backlog I planned to convert someday.

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          I’ve been using OnlyOffice, although I bet LibreOffice can open them too. That doesn’t convert files unless I save, but it doesn’t seem to me up the formatting either. I used to have to bulk convert using a Google drive plugin, which could help for bulk conversation but isn’t a FOSS solution.

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      My Mac studio m2 was the only computer I ever had that had compatibility issues with some USB cables

      People talk about Apple hardware like it’s incredible, but honestly, no pc manufacturer would make that mistake

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        Butterfly keyboards. so saying apple is the pinnacle of hardware is stupid. They make dumb decisions just like everyone else.

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          Apple does honestly make good hardware. Their transition to ARM had a near zero chance of being successful but Apple managed to pull it off anyway. It’s truly impressive.

          But when they fuck up, boy do they go big. The butterfly keyboards were absolutely insane. And don’t get me started on the last years software releases. I can’t practically multitask on my iPad anymore, screen space is wasted on the MacBook in Tahoe and the finder is worse than it’s ever been. Competition is supposed to save us but Microsoft is so smitten with AI they still can’t even get their start menu to work reliably. Meanwhile linux is gaining faster than anyone thought possible. Valve is doing to gaming on Linux what Ubuntu did to teaching neurotypicals how to use Linux.

          Western tech gave up.

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            Windows was mostly the same with ARM too for most people honestly.

            In our industry, lots of people got ARM surface laptops (and didn’t even know it was an ARM CPU, except that the software we used had an old version of OpenVPN, which caused a specific issue unless they manually installed as it was a kernel module). The reason the ARM changeover might have seemed seamless, is that developers were likely given priority access to hardware (as what happened with PPC -> Intel)… On Windows there was special hardware for it, and I suspect there was a Arm development kit on MacOS too probably.

            People also seem to compare Apple hardware against PC hardware which costs 1/2 the price too. I owned a Power MAC, Mac Pro and Mac Studio. The Mac Pro ram alone cost more than a FASTER PC as the first gen used Fully Buffered ECC RAM.

            Developers can optimise for Apple based on whats available though . The other big advantage Apple has is that they mostly control the service process, and, you can’t bite the hand that feeds if you are one, which controls bad press too.

            And when they use another architecture, nobody seems to cross compare gaming performance as much, etc, as the biggest MAC sites also tend to be apple “exclusive” sites, and I’m willing to bet the people that operate them are shareholders… Apple have always been behind in graphics performance (and, still are. The M1’s and M2’s didn’t even have hardware raytracing as an example, whilst even the Intel Iris chips did).

            However, by the way people talk about Apple, you’d think the M series CPU’s were absolutely smashing PC performance and they were even expecting the M5 chips to compete with the GTX 4080’s a few months ago.

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        compatibility issues with some USB cables

        I’d like to hear more about this. I have a theory that as great as USB-C is for consistency, the fact that it shares a connector with Thunderbolt (to say nothing about the different versions of Thunderbolt) introduces a level of uncertainly when looking at a USB-C connector.

        • it can be a “charge-only” cable (USB 2.0)
        • it can charge slowly, or quickly
        • it can be a USB-C cable
        • it can be Thunderbolt 3 / USB 4.0
        • it can be active, or passive
        • it can be Thunderbolt 4
        • it can be Thunderbolt 5

        I’m certainly not trying to discount your experience. I’m sure you ran into significant problems. But in general I continue to believe that the general public may not have the right “flavor” of USB-C cable to do what they are trying to do in a given situation.

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          It’s nothing to do with the standard I believe

          The same cables and adapters all worked when I used them on my nuc for the same devices, and they wouldn’t even work with my mouse on the Mac studio.

          My suspicion is that the shell of the case is a bit thick (as the port is recessed behind it), so some cables just failed to touch fully. As, some cables felt more snug and clicked into the port better

          For the cost of the computer, it damned sure shouldn’t have that issue

          Even worse, for the price of the computer, the power button should be on front, not buried on the back. That’s overcomplicating things for the sake of doing so

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            Reminds me of the original iPhone and the 3.5mm audio jack that was too “deep” for normal headphones.

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        USB-A is the common standard. Most devices are made with USB-A compatibility. Most portable media are USB-A.

        I’m not even going after the vast majority of my hard stops when I pick technology, like the fact that there’s no proper (S)VGA and no full-size DisplayPort (and I mean proper DisplayPort, not an “HDMI” plug into a DisplayPort interface), or the lack of a hardware switch to fully disable power to all onboard radio and modem devices.

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          USB-A is the common standard. Most devices are made with USB-A compatibility. Most portable media are USB-A.

          Well, per spec the client devices are supposed to have B ports (e.g. printers, scanners, external hard drives, etc. are all B), thumb stick are outliers in that they use A.

          Well they used to at least, all the ones I’ve seen recently are A/C. A is legacy at this point.

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            They had female B ports and you usually connected them to the PC with a male B to male A cable.

            Thumbstics forego the cable for easo of carrying so they provide what the cable would, USB A male for the host.

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          So mad that my modern laptop doesn’t have a DIMM port, how am I supposed to use my 1992 era keyboard?

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    lol what happened to emailing the presentation or sharing it on a cloud drive like Google

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    Just get a usbC flash drive. USB C is actually pretty good and you can easily get one that has both a and c.

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    Hey remember that tried and true universal plug-in that literally works on everything and everybody loves? Lets not have that anymore.

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      I know Apple is terrible with usability, but I also think USB-C is now the one that works everywhere. All my last USB stick purchases had USB-A and C, just so that I don’t have to run away in tears. I can even use them with smartphones and those never had USB-A.

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        It’s the new standard, but there should always be at least one USB-A. It’s still incredibly common.

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            And? Is there something newer that’s a standard? If not, it’s the new one.

            Also, it’s only recently become the de facto standard. Yes, it’s older than that, but it didn’t become the standard until maybe five years ago. So much was still being made for USB-A, and some things still are. Anything older than ~5 years ago has good odds of being A.

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              Anything older than 5 years ago has the odds of being A, B, Mini A, Mini B, Micro A, Micro B, etc.

              C is the standard. If you need legacy support, there’s hubs and adapters. No need to perpetuate legacy ports. I’d love a serial and a parallel connector - there’s plenty of modern industrial gear still using them. But we do that with C -> Serial adapters.

              A device has a limited number of ports. Would one rather two USB-C, or one A and one C?

              That A port will have diminishing value if one intends to use the device for 5 to 10 years and increases the probability someone discards the device early given the limited number of modern, high value ports.

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                I don’t have a single peripheral that uses USB-C. I have a lot of USB-A and some micro-USB.

                My phone is USB-C and that’s about it. Given that my 2 year old PC case has 8 USB-A connectors and 1 USB-C connector, I’d also wager keyboards and mice won’t stop being USB-A anytime soon. There’s just no reason for them to be anything else.

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                  I’d also wager keyboards and mice won’t stop being USB-A anytime soon. There’s just no reason for them to be anything else.

                  Depends on whether or not the cable is fixed or removable, my mouse has a fixed cable so it uses A (lowest common denominator), meanwhile my (5 year old) keyboard has a removable cable so has a C port only.

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              Furthermore I shouldn’t have to get rid of an old A device that still works just because they remove the ports. I don’t care how old it is let me use my external CD drive with the USB-A to Mini-USB (yes mini lmao.) Wish I still had an attached optical disk drive tbh.

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              For progress to happen you have to move on eventually. Hubs are a decent compromise.

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            People do not replace accessories and specialized external hardware nearly as often as companies think they do.

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                Considering I called myself a Communist in the 90s…

                Granted I have become more conservative with age and lean more Socialist/Democratic Socialist these days.

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        Both USB-C and USB-A have their pros and cons.

        • USB-C has a lot more bandwidth and power draw.

        • USB-A is sturdier and cheaper.

        For things like a mouse or keyboard, having more bandwidth or power draw are useless, but being cheaper and sturdier are not.

        One can not replace the other entirely. Apple just wants to milk everyone by forcing them to buy all their peripherals again.

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        my home computer has no USB-C and I can’t afford to upgrade because gestures broadly.

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            First day of the COVID confinement I plugged in a cheap usb c/a dongle into my work laptop to use my mouse and instantly fried the mobo.

            Just saying eh 😁

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            I have a USB-C hub with USB-A ports that plugs into my work PC. I had a hard time trying to find the opposite, though I haven’t looked in ages; it honestly has come up exactly once in the last few years when I needed to borrow my wife’s sd card reader (or dig my old laptop out of the closet and play the updates game).

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        And I have about 20 USB-A flash drives, up to 128GB, that I should just toss in the trash because…why exactly? Because they are “old”?

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          “all my recent flash drives have had both ports so I can use them with usb a or usb c!”

          “WHAT SO I SHOULD JUST TOSS ALL MY OLD HARDWARE?”

          no one said that. youre just saying shit. you can still use your usb-a flash drives.

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          Bro, just get an A-C Adapter. They are like 20cents und always useful, especially if you have old hardware

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            So now we need to buy dongles for something that should be standard on a computer?

            Next thing we’ll need a dongle for the power button, because Apple decided that shouting “POWER ON APPLE” is the better way to turn on a laptop.

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              Stop whining so much, no one’s telling you to use a dongle, there’s nothing wrong with USB-C slowly replacing USB-A and becoming a new standard.

              We’d never be rid of VGA if we were listening to the ever nagging old dorks that can’t get themselves an adapter.

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                Thank you, I was just about to write a lengthy paragraph about serial ports being the only standard ever needed 😅

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                  Psh you youngsters with your fancy serial ports! Tin cans with string were good enough for my grandparents and they’re good enough for me!

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          No - but you can get a A to C adapter if you expect that you’ll bring it to someone who might only have USB C.

          And from my perspective: if I expect other to being me data id expect from myself to bring such an adapter. That way I’d both parties try to remember chances are one of them have. :)

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            It’s not normal to expect someone to not have USB-A on a computer though.

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                USB-A is still widely used, even more than USB-C, serial is not.

                Apple is forcing standards when there is no need, … again

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                  For mobile devices I don’t share that experience. I do not expect others to have USB A anymore. MacBooks alone are so widespread that they were enough to get sna adapter.

                  It’s the same for displays: if I have to give a presentation I’m making sure I can do next to everything down to and including VGA.

                  Yes it’s the venues job to take care of that but I’ve been in one place that literally went like “can’t you just connect?” to their apple bullshit.

                  That Apple is rotten to the core in many topics is nothing I feel needs discussing - this includes specifically their hostile stand and compatibility.

                  I honestly don’t even see an issue with the adapters though: it’s 5gram, 2(ish) Euro and sometimes I can even be the compability savior and people are forced to listen to me bitching about Apple!

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          USB-A to USB-C adapter. They’re inexpensive, and you don’t have to get one for each of the 30 flash drives you have.

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          If it’s just for documents I may still have single digit GB memory sticks somewhere that are more than enough space.

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          Who the hell still uses flash drives in 2026? Especially a slow-ass USB-A one. I can’t think of a single use-case for them.

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            I’ll just laugh at you with my 256GB “slow” USB 3 flash drive if you ever need any boot utility like memtest or gparted then.

            Who use those? Well simply people who actualy maintain computers.

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              If I need any of those I simply set the machine to network-boot. I have all of those and more available as network boot images on my LAN.

              Alternatively I can simply log in to the IPMI interface on any of my machines and attach the disk image as a virtual drive and boot it from that. No need to even physically go to the machine as all my x86 machines use server-grade hardware with remote management capabilities.

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                Those are not things all motherboard support, and the whole discussion stemed from laptop ports, do any consumer laptop (or any laptop at all) have IPMI?

                As for PXE boot, doesn’t this one relies on the existence of a rj45 port on the target machine? Did you believe a laptop that replaced every port with usb-c somehow still had one of those?

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            Me. Linux distros (either install media or straight live boot disks like Tails), moving files larger than like fucking 2gb without relying on spyware or self hosting a cloud service, redundant backups of your most important files, rescue disks, and MORE! Only $16.99 for a limited time while supplies last see comment for details.

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              Linux distros (either install media or straight live boot disks like Tails)

              What’s the advantage of using a slow USB drive instead of just network-booting the install media or mounting it through IPMI?

              moving files larger than like fucking 2gb without relying on spyware or self hosting a cloud service

              Just send the data between machines using SCP, much easier and faster.

              redundant backups of your most important files

              Backups you do either to a NAS or to a Thunderbolt-connected SSD, not a USB-A drive. Again, much too slow to use a USB drive.

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                What’s the advantage of using a slow USB drive instead of just network-booting the install media or mounting it through IPMI?

                Why spend 30 minutes setting up the networking when I could just plug in the USB and go do something else for 5 minutes?

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                I don’t have internet spawning from my ass, so it works better in non-connected environments.

                More importantly I have no fucking clue what any of that means, but I can plug rectangle into rectangle hole. And absolutely 0 “how to install linux” tuts come with your set-up, so I’m gonna guess most new people don’t know how to either. “Do network magic because some dickhead wants to remove all ports” isn’t going to be a selling point for them.

                Can I SCP my dad the pictures of my vacation from 3 states away? Maybe. Would he prefer I mail him a “zip drive?” Yes. Not everyone on earth is a 1337 H4x0r like yourself there zero cool.

                You really need your monthly 3rd redundant backup of your .kdbx file to be lightning fast? I can wait the .03 seconds it takes to transfer I’m not in as much of a hurry as you.

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                  I don’t have internet spawning from my ass, so it works better in non-connected environments.

                  Yeah, if you’re in the middle of a desert, Antarctica or in some jungle then I can imagine. But the majority of people who are not on a safari somewhere and live in a normal, populated area will have internet practically everywhere. You’d have to go out of your way to find a place without internet.

                  More importantly I have no fucking clue what any of that means

                  Then maybe just buy a Mac and get 99% of the benefits of a *nix system without needing the appropriate knowledge.

                  Can I SCP my dad the pictures of my vacation from 3 states away? Maybe. Would he prefer I mail him a “zip drive?”

                  He would prefer you sending him a simple WhatsApp message with your pictures instead of having to mess with a thumb drive.

                  You really need your monthly 3rd redundant backup of your .kdbx file to be lightning fast?

                  No. I need my hourly incremental backup of my entire drive to be fast.

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      Where did we go wrong? We might never know … but it for sure isn’t because of cult-like loyalty to a single company notorious for doing this. It’s a mystery