https://xcancel.com/IbsiNow/status/2071291805438558607
When you kick out French imperialists, and then roll out the red carpet for the Zionist entity. 
Massive Troaré L. Thomas Sankara must be spinning in his grave right now.
reposting this Boise_idaho comment from the news mega
Interesting commentary (alongside the dude just ranting):
https://xcancel.com/DavidHundeyin/status/20717603477996835343 days after Traoré is all over the news for breaking off diplomatic relations with France, which gets a good reception, some obscure christian zionist Twitter handle puts out a bullshit tweet portraying a routine change of an accredited Israeli ambassador (based in Cote d’Ivoire) as “Traoré developing closer ties with Israel” and you bunch supposedly “anti-imperialist” dumbasses fall for the headfake instantly without making any attempt to even understand what you are looking at.
good list of usernames to not pay attention to anymore though
I’ve been coming to believe through threads like these that the leading ideology of Hexbear is “Marxism-Leninism-Gobshitism”: people with underdeveloped leftist ideas come to Hexbear; eventually become reliant on Hexbear for their social needs; and what ends up happening because of this arrangement is that “leftism” here just becomes a series of memes that people endlessly quote at each other as a signifier of group belonging, or “kulture” as I call it. I wonder if some of the people here have subconsciously convinced themselves that by merely being on Hexbear, they’re developing their understanding of the world, as if developing one’s knowledge through this site doesn’t require active will, effort, and struggle, just as developing one’s knowledge through any other means.
So, many people here make no effort at deeper understanding: trying to have the correct reaction to a headline at a glance alone, is merely a game of call and response to see who belongs here the most.
it has its flaws but this is the only social space I have that isn’t suffocating in capitalist death sludge making me feel like I’m the only person who gives a shit
Yeah, that’s how it is for me too.
Over time I’ve increasingly felt the same. I like to delve into the weeds and why people do the things they do, it’s my way of reconciling contradictory narratives that all appeal to something that’s fact; “seeking truth from facts” basically. But instead I often get people jumping to conclusions or making hyperbolic statements that I’m getting increasingly tired from.
When I recently asked for counternarratives to the Western narrative that explains the jihadist insurgencies in the Sahel (“AES and Russia did too many war crimes, we were right to warn them about the Russians”), the few answers that I did get were short “the French are funding terrorists” narratives, which to me just seems like a mirror of liberals handwaving dissent as “Russian interference”.
On Lemmygrad I got a longer response but the only alternative explanation for people joining that jihadist groups was just “poverty”, which felt incomplete because not every poor place turns to militancy simply when given the chance. And I still felt like I was being told to just take their word that the Sahel states won’t fall like Syria did, where foreign funding of HTS doesn’t explain why the Syrian Arab Army just fled and let them take the country.
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Wait till you hear about China
China deserves to be shit on for that as well. Like I’ve said before, not everything has to be defended.
Most Chinese people are not happy about it either I think.
All but one Chinese person who I’ve discussed Palestine with is pro Palestine. The pro Israel one was hanging out with a pro Israel German dude and I think was just bad at English and uninformed as he seemed to know nothing.
But but but but but le hexBORING tunkies love authoritarianism!!!
(A lot of situations more local to me don’t feel particularly well understood on here but I’m sympathetic to those willing to look past the reflexive thinking reinforced throughout life)
I get the general sense that Traoré et al are more national liberationists than anti-imperialists. And the veneration of Sankara is in a similar vein. But I am really unsure about what the underlying political realities are.
Oof.
He’s been too friendly with the UAE for a while so I kinda saw this coming
Why act so surprised that one of the poorest nations on earth is forced into geopolitical pragmatism? You have forgiven streamers for worse.
I don’t know if this is directed at me personally, but I don’t forgive streamers, let alone follow any of them. This tendency of always having to defend the indefensible is probably one of the most annoying things in our community. Sometimes you can just let people be upset or disappointed when a bad thing happens. It doesn’t automatically mean that people will drop all support. The term “critical support” exists for a reason.
Also, using the excuse of them being poor to defend an anti-imperialist leader for strengthening ties with Israel is quite something when there are poor countries out there (like Yemen and Cuba, just to name a few) who chose to stand with the oppressed over so called “geopolitical pragmatism” when dealing with a genocidal apartheid state.
It depends entirely on the implementation, & whether they have the resilience to manage foreign capital. I disagree with the moral framing of trade ties in general, so there is no excuse involved. Yemen is whole other can of chicken, of course ideally we would all be Yemen, unilaterally close off the first world to force a reorganization of the imperialist structure into something compatible & not parasitic. Yemen is struggling & the non-aligned movement is practically dead. If you disagree that foreign investment controls can be used to redirect resources from hostile nations into positive results, we can wait and see. I wouldn’t justify Brazil having military ties to Israel left over from Bolsonaro, different position, different ties, I only compare them because we could do so using headline-reaction moral outrage.
No, I’m not monitoring your media consumption habits, when a post gets a lot of interaction I tend to just ignore the comments & let people fight it out, it wasn’t directed at you specifically
I don’t understand what this meeting was for, knowing shit about geopolitics really it seems like it wasn’t strengthening or weakening ties with anybody at all. Could someone smarter explain why this happened and what exactly the meeting is for? And what that means for strengthening ties?
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my goat washed
Yeah I’m gonna wait until I hear the justifications/corrections about this visit from actual officials of Troare’s government and not from the self-serving mouth of some blood diamond zionist hawk who lies as he breathes
Either this is kayfabe to buy time to prevent American drone strikes or the US helping France arm ISIS…
Or Troare is a zionist all of a sudden, time and more info is needed
Edit: And what do you know, turns out it’s complete bullshit https://xcancel.com/DavidHundeyin/status/2071760347799683534, our resident doomers can stop flagellating themselves for daring to support an African leader
Edit: turns out the Israel thing is bullshit, huzzah!!
Between this and being a massive queerphobe…
whatever will burkina faso do without your support…
What are they gonna do with your support…
We can support anti-Imperialist projects while also recognizing that things like queerphobia in these places are vestiges of Colonialism that were imposed by the west.
Yuck…
Knew something like this was going to happen when the UAE was involved way too much in the AES (Mali’s primary trading partner is the UAE) just wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt
I mean it would be pretty amnestic to see them working with one regional subimperialist & think they wouldn’t do this when China and Vietnam have done the same. It’s part of the same pole as US, Japan, Europe, Aus, RoK, Singapore, this is how the global trade system works. You get crowbar’d into working with imperialists no matter what. Autarky failed, the periphery got left behind. Exception might be DPRK, which was able to make something out of the sacrifice & never rolled back & became a neocolonialist hellhole in any respect.
- it’s unpopular decision and very unlikely to be appreciated by the population.
- it gives legitimatacy to the IS groups.
- Burkina Faso will gain nothing from working with the entity, the entity will gain more from it.
- this will kill any chance of working with Algeria, Iran or the DPRK.
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strongest point but consider they don’t have DSA twitter users there
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??? IS is not an organic phenomenon created by the political illegitimacy of the Sahel states with their people it’s going to be done away with via weapons & development
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okay why do you think China & Vietnam have done it? to be assholes? to piss you off?
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expecting me to take this seriously is interesting. translate this: https://lecontinental.info/alliance-des-etats-du-sahel-aes-une-dynamique-de-refondation-souverainiste-et-securitaire-en-marche/. okay, algeria has literally shot down drones from mali they do not have a good relationship, all AES ambassadors have been withdrawn from algeria lmao. yemen & iran work with china all the time. why would they start acting like western leftists and sabotage their diplomatic ties for fun
bad faith argument with so many assumptions. in the case Burkina Faso develops shit with israel, because apparently this was posted by a zionist mouth piece and can’t be trusted, could be fake.
- Being against israel is not a DSA thing, the people of Burkina Faso are majority Muslims, it’s not a DSA twitter user mentality thing to dislike israel.
- Israel is so disgusting it gives ilegitimatacy to anything near it, many people would join Isis if it faught israel, but it won’t ever do that.
- Burkina Faso is not China or Vietnam, Burkina Faso’s options from the zionist entity are weapons that already got Palestinian blood on them, overpriced tanks, and spy tech that compromises them.
- is a Malian drone worth more to Burkina Faso than thousands of Palestinian kids? is it easier to forgive the crimes comitted there?
Would Israel accept Iran working with Burkina Faso?
“don’t work with israel” isn’t a western leftist position it’s an anti colonial one.
Not even reading this, we are discussing completely fictional premises
https://xcancel.com/DavidHundeyin/status/2071760347799683534#m
My bad for taking you guys seriously & thinking you know what’s going on in the world. We are eating Israeli propaganda.
Yeah, my first sentence is about how this could be fake, if you read it you would’ve known, Also don’t act all smart now BECAUSE NOT ONLY DID YOU EAT THIS SHIT UP, NOT ONLY YOU WERE ONE OF THE LAST PEOPLE ON THIS THREAD TO FIGURE OUT IT’S FAKE, YOU STARTED BELIEVING IN IT FULL SWING, YOU WERE THIS CLOSE TO SAYING AM YISRAEL CHAI TAKE THIS AS A FUCKING LESSON DAWG.
Well apparently I actually made an effort to correct in the thread at literally exactly the same time as you, why the hell are you acting smug? Didn’t feel like actually notfying anyone else except to prove a point online? I stand by my alt history interpretation! Don’t make flippant accusations of bad faith Zionism in all caps. You’re being childish.
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I have a feeling the DPRK is going to be a lesson for all future anti-imperialist projects.
Well so will all the failures, but this is fake btw I corrected my bulllshiiiiiiit
Thank goodness!!!
