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Posadas [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net to chapotraphouse@hexbear.netEnglish · 1 year ago

The subway is like a prison

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The subway is like a prison

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Posadas [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net to chapotraphouse@hexbear.netEnglish · 1 year ago
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  • AutomatedPossum [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    BTW these things also scan the genital area. If an unoperated trans woman passes through, it flags her for having a hidden weapon in her crotch. This has been a source of forced outings, public humiliation and in some cases outright sexual harassment by flight security staff ever since these machines where introduced at airports, i find the idea that somebody could be forced to endure that before every subway ride absolutely nightmarish.

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      Yeah I was gonna make the trashfuture joke about it being a t-slur detector but honestly its not even funny, this is horrible

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        btw a common way to confirm the victim’s claim that the alarm was set off by girldick and not by a firearm is to do a patdown in the crotch area, with the gender of the person doing the patdown depending on the airport’s levels of transphobia.

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          I love having my dick groped every time I want to get on a subway. This happened before a flight and it ruined my whole day. what the fuck.

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      Aren’t these the ones that also instantly destroy insulin pumps?

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      How would a metal detector sense the shape of your flesh? And how would it know your legal gender?

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        When you go through they gotta press a button guessing your sex. Whether I get patted on the crotch or the bra is a test of how well I pass that day.

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    i don’t even have words for this one. this is completely deranged even by US standards. they’re going to make you go through the TSA experience every single day. it won’t do anything to stop crime or terrorism or anything that it says on its face. they’re going to do this, it’s going to stay, and the only people who are for it are people who don’t use the subway

    god damn america

    • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      Every day I get blasted by x-rays.

      Have very little money.

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        Where do i buy this exact bag

        • Hurvitz [they/them]@hexbear.net
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          https://www.ebay.com/itm/355562896577

          or redbubble or one of those sites that just algorithmically generates custom merchandise that it can dropship

    • nothx [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      Twice a day at least… Fucking miserable timeline.

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      I’m pretty sure Beijing has bag scanners in their metro to be fair. But I don’t think they’re doing body scanners

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    I love how the NYC subway is quite literally falling apart, by far the most decrepit unsafe looking metro system ive ever been on, and this is where they decide to spend money

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      The NYC subway is comically loud and bad and dirty, I cringe to think what visitors from places like Tokyo or Hong Kong think when they see it in person for the first time

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        I would have to assume it’s a Paris syndrome type experience.

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          Except Paris renovated their crappy metro stations. The NYC subway is truly a uniquely shitty class of its own.

      • HexbearGPT [comrade/them]@hexbear.netBannedBanned from community
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        I love seeing Japanese tourists taking the bus and just cracking up inside, thinking how they must be realizing that the US is a just third world country with big guns in real time.

        Welcome to the shithole empire!

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      Not to say there isn’t tons of work to be done but “dingy looking” and ancient =/= unsafe and falling apart. Shit’s still safer than driving a car, for example, and it’s certainly falling apart less than the T in boston

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        Very true just giving my worthless outsider’s perspective I guess. Almost anything anyone does is safer than driving a car, isn’t it ?

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          Theoretically, walking is more dangerous than driving per kilometer. But what this statistic ignores is that you do not walk the same distance that you drive. It also ignores the health benefits of exercise.

      • HexbearGPT [comrade/them]@hexbear.netBannedBanned from community
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        Now compare it to other countries not other US cities.

        Lmao. Collapsing fucking empire with good PR.

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          There’s tons of work to be done to make it a modern system competitive with other nations in terms of technology, cleanliness, speed, etc., but it’s not to the level of unsafe and falling apart. I’m just a little defensive because this is exactly how people who want to gut transit describe it, and its over-sensationalized.

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            Just because it’s functional doesn’t mean it’s not a dilapidated shithole. There’s so many trains and routes in the subway that are one bad day away from 6 months of shutdown for maintenance, including some critical bottlenecks between the outer boroughs and Manhattan, and the MTA would rather spend hundreds of millions on security theater.

            I love living in a place where public transit is a legitimate option, but much like the bridge in Baltimore I’m just waiting to see the whole thing collapse under it’s own weight while the rich fucks in charge just shrug their shoulders and inform us it’ll be $20 billion into their pockets and 15 years to get 40% functionality back.

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      You haven’t been to Boston recently then.

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        Thankfully not

      • HexbearGPT [comrade/them]@hexbear.netBannedBanned from community
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        The northeast US is literally the worst place on earth.

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      That sucks to hear as someone who’s never been on a subway other than in GTA4. Being able to go from one end of my city to the other without driving sounds nice.

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        It’s amazing honestly, I only wish they would keep making it better where I live instead of letting it get rusty while increasing the price

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      Even Paris finally updated their worst stations. Charlet and Les Halles are pristine.

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    China: high speed rail and efficiency

    America: You have to be scanned and there will be a cop with a drug dog

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      Ok, but have you considered the following: China bad

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      deleted by creator

      • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        sicko-wistful

      • peppersky [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
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        https://vimeo.com/96440462

      • theblueredditrefugee [she/her, fae/faer]@hexbear.net
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        At least true in SZ where I live, yes. And they have a special scanner for drinks. But the process is very quick, you go through the whole thing in a few seconds, and I’ve never had to be groped by the agents for having both 🍆 and 🍈. I don’t think the device is a metal detector, because you go through it before putting stuff in the x-ray. Idk what it is 😅 your guess is as good as mine

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          Never been through any security in any public transit or trains in the EU. Wondering what the materialist analysis of this is.

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            China has faced a large number of attempts at coups and color revolutions, I don’t blame them

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      to be fair the shanghai metro also has security(which imo kinda unnecessary but fair ig). but even then they have an actually nice metro

  • Futterbinger [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    This has got to be a set up for some kind of rent seeking behavior right? They’ll definitely create some kind of fast pass that costs $100 dollars a month that you’ll need to pass a background check, have a social security number, and a permanent address to obtain.

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      I would expect as much. You’re describing what already exists in airports, except you also have to pass an in-person interview to be considered.

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        I mean, TSA pre is only $16/yr. That is if you haven’t outed yourself as an enemy of the state yet

    • HexbearGPT [comrade/them]@hexbear.netBannedBanned from community
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      us-foreign-policy New subway screening system

  • Rojo27 [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Uh… wtfcringe

    “This is our Sputnik moment,” Adams said at a news conference at Fulton Transit Center in Lower Manhattan. “Like when Kennedy said we’re going to put a man on the moon. … Let’s bring on the scanners.”

    https://gothamist.com/news/nypd-to-test-scanners-with-ai-tech-to-crack-down-on-guns-in-nyc-subway

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      I can’t think of a more fitting quote to sum up the 21st century

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      Let’s bring on the scanners

      I could not agree more

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      All A.I. shall be nazified.

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    are they trying to privatise & dismantle the subway? decrease ridership, pump costs, making it this theatrical political problem?

    then it’ll be proposed that a private interest can rejuvenate and solve all these manufactured problems

    • Evilphd666 [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      The grift after 9/11 made a mockery of any supposed Democracy we have and the constiution is mere suggestions.

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        NYC is an absolute fucking police state.

        Fuck the NYPD.

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    Bit idea: Get a bunch of people who have gun shaped objects strapped to them to continuously walk through these to bog the entire system down so the rest of the complacent New Yorkers rebel against it too.

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      Why yes officer, I always have 7 conspicuous dildos under my clothing. Would you like one?

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        Your dildos don’t have trigger-operated vibrators? How do you live?

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        CW: amazon, genitals

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      Sounds like a plot written by Cory Doctorow.

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      They would just got shot probably

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    What the fuck has happened in New York to justify the need for airport level security in subways?

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      They hired a cop to be mayor.

      This is probably all about shutting down the next blm or occupy or whatever by creating check points at transit hubs.

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        In Chicago during the BLM protests they shut down the trains and then raised all the bridges so you couldn’t get out then issued a curfew. They literally made a giant kettle

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          That’s when you start burning shit down.

          I was in a kettle once and the crowd was pushed against a citibank. well those bank windows got smashed and people streamed into the bank and trashed it and escaped through it. Lmao. Hundreds still got arrested, but many escaped.

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            Oh since it was a large part of the commercial district kettled once that curfew hit looting liberation of commercial goods began.

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              Nice

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
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          Yeah. Literal super-villain shit.

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          The Owners are just you know.

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      It doesn’t bear out statistically that the subway is dangerous this is literally because of crime stories that go viral that create this perception. If you use the argument I just made people will literally accuse you of gaslighting them. Oh oh and another thing the New Yorkers who scream the loudest about this shit are the ones that DONT ride the subway; they’re fucking cowards. I’ve spent thousands of hours on the subway while there have been uncomfortable moments I have never been attacked or thought I was going to be attacked. It’s fucking safe as fuck; I’ve been to plenty of places in America where I felt unsafe and I’m telling you the nyc subway is fucking safe as fuckkkk. People are racist cowards.

      Edit: I don’t want to sound too dismissive though as I’m a tall dude and at the end of the day; In the same way it can be sketchy to walk in certain parts of town at 2am as a woman the same is for the subway; sexual harassment happens and just like nearly every woman has a story of being sexually harassed/assaulted above ground; nearly every woman I talk to that rides the subway has a story of something happening down there. Obviously the fascist security theater in the OP won’t have any impact on that whatsoever but yeah safety is relative and I understand engrained misogyny can create very different perceptions of these environments for woman, trans, GNC ect

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        Exactly, I grew up in the city and the subways were always relatively safe

        Hate seeing one of the best parts of the city ruined

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          Yeah But have you considered that chickenshit private school rich kids and adults want to be able to ride the subway now, so everyone has to be strip searched and anally probed so that the chickenshits feel safe.

          Duh.

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        This was my experience also. I lived in NYC for almost a decade, and never once did I feel unsafe anywhere in the entire city. This includes doing things like taking the subway and walking home alone at 3:00 in the morning. It was just an incredibly safe feeling city. I too was a young white guy in excellent physical shape at that point, but while I’m sure that influenced things somewhat, I simply don’t believe that anywhere in NYC is so dangerous that this is a reasonable option.

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      Wasn’t there like a stabbing by a serial attacker and the cops hid until the guy who was being stabbed subdued him by himself?

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        Yep, much like in Uvalde the cops won’t actually do the part of the job people claim they’re needed for.

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      Paranoia, mostly

      In mid-2022, there was about one violent crime per one million rides on the subway, according to a New York Times analysis. Since then, the overall crime rate has fallen and ridership has increased, making the likelihood of being a victim of a violent crime even more remote. Last year, overall crime in the transit system fell nearly 3 percent compared with 2022 as the number of daily riders rose 14 percent.

      The downward trend stalled early this year, with the number of major crimes in the transit system jumping in January before dipping again in February. Through March 3, there had been three homicides in the system, compared with one and the same period last year, according to police data. Overall, major crimes, including felony assaults, burglaries and grand larcenies, have increased 13 percent so far this year, the data shows.

      Through Feb. 25, the authorities tallied six assaults against subway employees, up from five last year, according to police data.

      source

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    How the fuck is this even a little bit feasible at any station during rush hour

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      it isnt. you will buy a car or you will be anally probed

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        proletariat

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        A car in NYC at rush hour is slower than standing still

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          until they create checkpoints at every block, then youll wish you had a car!

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        Really? Sells car

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      They’ll streamline the process by hiring 200% more cops which will work gangbusters by making things even slower.

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    Every day, capitalism finds new and horrible ways to ruin public services.

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      Wouldn’t surpise me if this was exactly for that purpose

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        “Unfortunately with low ridership we will have to scale back funding to public transportation”

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    Another example of liberals becoming more authoritarian.

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      Becoming? They already were. They’ve just made strides in making it more socially acceptable

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        How do we reverse this?

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          yamagami “Where’s Kathy?”

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        Yeah, they’ve always been this bad, this is just them getting new toys for Opression Day.

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    mfs saw the TSA and were like: Brilliant!

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    Wow, the Stop-and-frisk-plausible-deniability beam! We really are living in the future agony-wholesome

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    Sorry that rent’s 80% of your income, but we gotta spend countless dozens of millions of dollars to instate martial law to stop the post-COVID surge of crime to its rates during the violent era of uhhhhh

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    the early 2010s

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      2010s

      Do you mean the 2020s?

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        I meant the rates increased to 2011 level once covid fucked up everyone’s employment

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