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Yuritopiaposadism [none/use name]@hexbear.net to History@hexbear.netEnglish · 9 months ago

Dont read the comments.

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Dont read the comments.

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Yuritopiaposadism [none/use name]@hexbear.net to History@hexbear.netEnglish · 9 months ago
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  • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    Nobunaga be like "hmmm I will take you on as a samurai retainer and troll the white supremacists centuries later epic style troll "

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      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlkzcreCKrU

      I always think of this clip with Henry Cavil (first 40 seconds) for when Nobunaga finally accepts that Yasuke’s skin is actually black. Either that or he soyfaces and goes “😲 you’re the coolest guy ever!! You gotta try this! hands him a sword” Either way I like to imagine it like dudes rock.

      • HexReplyBot [none/use name]@hexbear.netB
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        I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

        • yewtu.be
        • inv.nadeko.net
        • yt.artemislena.eu
        • piped.video
    • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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      And people would argue with me when i say he was a visionary smh

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    The people writing the history don’t understand that the only legit gaijin samurais are white guys from Iowa who ordered a $1000 katana online

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      They’ll be real disappointed to find out the best Katana are made by some guys in Longquan and not a Japanese blacksmith with 800 years of family blacksmithing history. At least for 1 grand you’re not getting a stainless steel wall hanger with no tang tho.

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        Spending a lifetime to learn to use the shittiest materials known to man to make something remotely useful seems like a great investment

        An inspiration to all hotdog stands

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        Fun fact: those shit mass produced katanas you can buy online and put to dust on your closet are probably better quality than average samurai footsoldier sword from XVI century.

    • Findom_DeLuise [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      geordi-no Mall ninjas

      geordi-yes Mall samurai

      • UlyssesT [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        Mall samurai

        Potentially awesome.

        https://thesmartlocal.jp/samurai-trash-collectors/

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          turtle-pogger

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    Once again “historical accuracy” just means us-foreign-policy and dudebro biotruths in freeze-gamer use.

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      One assassins creed game gets announced and suddenly thousands of pasty gamers who don’t know shit about anything turn into high scholars on 16th century japan, curious. thinking-about-it hitler-detector

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        It mystifies me how they are so certain in their assertions without citing anything, as if they are unafraid of anybody disproving them. The main reason that I cite so many of my claims is so that nobody can accuse me of making up stuff, but apparently these types find it easier to just ignore me.

        https://steamcommunity.com/app/694280/discussions/0/5625567756217350195/?ctp=4

        I was the only participant in that thread to reference historians. Coincidentally, I was also the only one to (unjokingly) defend the hypothetical presence of female enemies in the setting.

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          steamfront

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          You’re just making stuff up, man.

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    It’s really annoying that a random videogame has made a pretty interesting historical figure into a culture war magnet. He was one of the first black people in Japan and was supposedly 6.2 ft tall, it’s not that surprising that Nobunaga decided to hire him.

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      HE WAS A DIVERSITY HIRE WHICH INVALIDATES HIS EXISTENCE AS A HISTORICAL FIGURE IN MY HISTORICALLY ACCURATE SWORD TREATS frothingfash

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    I just learned about what Nobunaga did in 1579 in class.. I've been shaking and crying ever since.. This isn't the sugoi racist Japan I know.. This can't.. This can't be real!! JAPAN WOULD NEVER DO THAT!!!! I KNOW FROM ANIME THAT JAPAN WOULD NEVER DO THIS.. Nandemo NANDEMO NANDEMO

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      Which anime he did even watched, there are black or at least dark skinned people in quite many of them.

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    Uhmm ackshually he wasn’t a samurai, he was just a retainer to the shogun who was given the weapons of office, traveled with his retinue, given residence, and fought with him. There’s a big difference.

    speech-top

    reddit-logo

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      Literally everyone that fought with swords in wars was considered a “samurai” during Yasuke’s time. These stormfront users are going by the earlier periods when samurai was a noble status rather than by the fact that as time went on it just came to mean everyone in the warrior class.

      They would be correct if Yasuke had existed before the Sengoku period, which is when the term became vague. But Yasuke’s time as a samurai to Nobunaga was 1581-1582 which is firmly after the Sengoku period, making him definitively a samurai.

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    There’s a great Shogun-esque novel waiting to be written about Yasuke, with the same appeal of imagining the political intrigue surrounding a person who literally has nowhere else to go in the world (since he would return to being a slave)

    Credit where credit is due, the goofy Nioh series of games had Yasuke

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      Where he was a giant axe wielding dude with a bear guardian spirit, it’s hype as fuck

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    deleted by creator

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    So you’re telling me that Japan went woke in the 16th century??!! too-woke-2-alt

  • Hello_Kitty_enjoyer [none/use name]@hexbear.netBanned
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    acktchszchyually sweaty, we were samurais and stuff. Haven’t you ever watched Tom Cruz?

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    Post the comments. I don’t want to have to do extra work for my brain worms

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      bird-screm-2 I am but a baby bird, feed me my (brain)worms!!!

  • tactical_trans_karen [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    Why not read the comments? Reddit is full of interesting conversation. blob-no-thoughts

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    A black samurai is just a normal samurai spraypainted black.

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      You joke but

      Nobunaga also wanted to see him, and so sent for him, so Padre Organtino brought him. With great fuss, he couldn’t believe this was the natural colour and not by human means, so ordered him to take off all his clothes above his belt. Nobunaga’s sons also called him over, and everyone was very happy.

      From the account of a Portuguese monk

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        Nobunaga also wanted to see him, and so sent for him, so Padre Organtino brought him. With great fuss, he couldn’t believe this was the natural colour and not by human means, so ordered him to take off all his clothes above his belt. Nobunaga’s sons also called him over, and everyone was very happy.

        :Volcel兵士:

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    aware

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