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Yuritopiaposadism [none/use name]@hexbear.net to The Dredge Tank@hexbear.netEnglish · 9 months ago

“We tolerate actuals Nazis, but draw the line at people who try to stop a genocide”

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“We tolerate actuals Nazis, but draw the line at people who try to stop a genocide”

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Yuritopiaposadism [none/use name]@hexbear.net to The Dredge Tank@hexbear.netEnglish · 9 months ago
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  • BeamBrain [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Not to toot my own horn, but I think it’s time to bust out this quote again:

    White supremacy is the black hole at the center of liberal thought: not directly observable, but made apparent by how all of their other ideas orbit around it.

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      Where’s this from?

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        Me papyrus-cool

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          In this moment, BeamBrain is euphoric

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            Real talk, I hope that wherever AALewis is, he’s doing well. Yeah, his infamous quote was extremely cringe, but he was 14 at the time, and 14 year olds can have a little cringe as a treat.

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              If y’all knew the kind of shit I was saying at 14 I’d be not only banned, I’d be first in the pit. That’s probably true for many of us here. Kids grow and change fast if given the opportunity to

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              I did not know this! 14 year olds are super cringe it’s the thing they’re best known for. I defy anyone to look at their 14 year old self and not think “cringe tryhard”

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          It’s a good quote, I’d call it repeating yourself instead of a quote tho. Quoting yourself is kinda like giving yourself a nickname.e

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      This so perfectly encapsulates what I have seen/felt since the terrorist pager attacks. Like, I always knew white folks were pretty racist towards Arab peoples. But man, the last month or so has really shone a light on it. The black hole analogy is spot on. There’s so much obvious racism and hatred in comments like “well sure a bunch of innocent hospital workers lost their hands/eyes but they deserved it for helping TERRORISTS!” type stuff. But the single greatest offense you can commit towards a white person is to accuse them of racism - even if it’s not conscious. So we all have to go along with their fiction that it’s not about racism but about FIGHTING TERRORISM.

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        But the single greatest offense you can commit towards a white person is to accuse them of racism - even if it’s not conscious.

        You know what’s stupidly hypocritical about yanks?

        They demand others see them with the nuance that they never give.

        All Muslims and Arabs are terrorists with a backwards culture!

        All Chinese are hive minded and worry about “face” and honor.

        All Russians are drunk barbarians who want to destroy the west.

        But God forbid you call all americans racist, violent, stupid, and arrogant. Each yank will insist it’s just a few of them and that not all of them are the loathsome white supremacists that everyone can see. If you bring up the genocides they’ve committed and the fact that trump really is the face of the nation, then they’ll cry up and down about how that’s not true and that trump is just a temporary thing!

        Nothing is genuine with those people. Everyone of them is a hypocrite.

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          And then in the next breath those yanks will casually talk of nuking X middle eastern country or some other place they don’t like.

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            The irony isn’t just lost, it never existed for them. It’s so pathetic that I actually wish euros were doing more to denigrate Americans online. Give them a taste of their own medicine.

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      It’s a baller line that explains many things with few words.

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        Thank you heart-sickle

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      Legend has it that this quote was written by the Chadliest of all Chads.

      Truly a poet and a scholar. order-of-lenin

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      beautiful

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      I have saved the comment, it’s too good

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      Who said it?

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    I can not imagine writing this and not seeing the contradiction, what point does she even think she is making? Like, obviously the KKK is advocating for horrible unjust violence, no one could believe they aren’t. To tolerate them because they do it politely, following social norms, but to not tolerate pro-Palestinian activism means you care more about politeness than violence.

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      To tolerate them because they do it politely, following social norms, but to not tolerate pro-Palestinian activism means you care more about politeness than violence.

      That’s cause they do! Well, I’m sure they don’t see it that way, but to them violence is saying mean things that disturb them during their commute or besmirch the front page of the New York Times. If you do violence quietly and civilly such that they aren’t forced to hear about it, you’re in the clear.

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      you care more about politeness than violence.

      That plus us-foreign-policy

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        “The white moderate”

        Letter from Birmingham Jail is the most relevant document.

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        pooh-wtf

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        This is somehow a worse take then the original post.

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    he-admit-it A great example of a scratched liberal moment

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    The KKK were CIVIL about lynching black people soviet-huff

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    “They never openly called for violence”

    They’re the bloody KKK, they do all the time. BTW you know Gamergaters aren’t going to apologize to you, right? Oh yeah, Gamergate was a time when the actual KKK called for violence on YOU specifically, now you’re all buddy-buddy with them?

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      She still sometimes says some things about Gamergate, and all of her newfound followers try to politely defend Gamergate to her when she does.

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        I do not like the revisionist history of gamergate that is emerging.

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          Its always been there bubbling under the surface.

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            freeze-gamergaters have been trying to write a false version of their own history before Adam Baldwin even proposed freeze-gamergate as their movement name. Back when it was “5 Guys” (yes, even more sexual pathology innuendo) they were already instructing each other on the “ethics in games journalism” mantra.

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        and all of her newfound followers try to politely defend Gamergate to her when she does.

        I’m sure she courts them and boosts their signal and their lies about their own movement partially out of fear and partially out of craving for additional clout. Disgusting.

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      But also like, when have Pro-Palestine protest movements in the US called for violence?

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        Stone of them have probably made statements in support of liberatory violence against the apartheid regime. That cannot stand as it would disturb the status quo.

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        Don’t be silly, we all know that making the rich feel uncomfortable also counts as violence.

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        When they insisted on pretending that “From the river to the sea” or any other call for basic human dignity for palestinians was a call for genocide.

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      Right? Their mere existence is a call for violence, for the establishment of a white supremacist status quo. Ffs Brianna.

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    I prefer my calls for violence to be made using dogwhistles and will judge things completely devoid of any contextsmug-explain

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    Brianna Wu is the most scratched liberal.

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      The scratch on her head is so deep I can see the bone. It’s white and pointed.

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        A KKKracKKK in the masKKK so to speak.

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      Even liberals are like please-save-me ’who the fuck let her out’

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    Riddle me this, fascist, what the fuck else was the literal klan advocating for?

    In a just world, you would get taken out back and shot for saying this. I am shocked that I am saying this, but the gamergaters were right about this individual (derogatory).

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      Gamergate was never right about anything but with the benefit of hindsight let-them-fight

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        They were right about her for the absolute worst reasons

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          “Uncritical support for gamergaters” who targeted her years before she let her mask slip and for something that has zero relationship to this KKK apologia shit is honestly not redeemable, either. Under no circumstances do you have to hand it to 4chan fascists.

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          … No. No uncritical support for gamergaters for any reason.

          You’re doing the same thing she is here.

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    Brianna Wu has been locked up in a lab, and she can’t leave until she has synthesized the world’s purest worst take.

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    Does…does this person know what the KKK stands for?

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      Depending on which KKK you’re referring to, either Philippine independence from Spain; Cypriot independence from Britain as a socialist state; or the violent maintenance of white supremacy throughout Anglo-America.

      Only one of these groups was active in Mississippi in the 1990s.

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        Shit we’ve been BTFO’d again. She’s talking about Kataastaasang Kagalanggalangang Katipunan ng mga Anak ng Bayan has created a local chapter in Mississippi to start a protracted people’s war against the Amerikkkan government, using local universities as recruitment centers and bases of operations.

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          Amerikkkan

          Doesn’t this imply that the country is already ruled by the Katipunan? I’m confused.

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            sicko-laser

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      Well she’s a well off white woman from Mississippi so the answer is probably yes, but she’s been trained in manners and social violence by some of the best monsters in the world so also no.

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      I thought you meant what the initials stand for and not like, what the group itself stands for and was gonna say they have a weird fucking name that I wouldn’t necessarily associate with racism if I’d somehow never heard of it. It’s not a name like The Heritage Rights Front or something

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    Does the KKK stand for anything that is not a direct call to violence?

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      It does if you are a white person working for a Republican, as Brianna Wu was at the time.

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      What I don’t get is if ‘free Palestine’ is ‘only’ calling for violence then why isn’t that a free speech issue, especially if her counter example is the KKK who openly call for violence all the time?

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    it would be illegal and a call to violence and terrorism for me to say ‘brianna wu should be hanged’

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      Personally, I think she should be treated just like the Palestinians are being treated right now. She doesn’t see anything wrong with how the Isntrealis and the US govt. are behaving after all, right? Surely everything will be fine and agreeable by her standards?

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      But if you add “… once the correct paperwork has been filed” it suddenly becomes much more acceptable to liberals.

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      illegal-to-say

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    The KKK? As in the Ku Klux Klan? The premier homegrown American as apple pie terrorist organization? Responsible for many murders, torture and terror?

    Curious.

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      The terroist insurgent army that overthrew Reconstruction and had two or three further racial terror wars, bombed black churches, lynced people, ruled politics across the west and midwest, like fuck’s sake Wu.

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        Tulsa was a “peaceful ethnic cleansing” obviously.

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    brianna poo

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