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But at what cost?
I’m sorry but
this is obviously fake.Everyone knows North Korea doesn’t get the sun. It is always perpetually overcast to give the nation a doom and gloom look to it. Everyone knows the people of North Korea haven’t ever experienced happiness and if they do they are taken by a commissar of emotional regulation and given 5 minutes to control their outbursts before they are killed and sent to work in a gulag.
As far as i know, DPRK is still pretty locked down as far as foreign visitors are concerned. From what Young Pioneer Tours have learned, the resort is for domestic tourism only.
I think everything about north korea always need a caveat that the place only has ~27 million people, theres simply not a lot of people in a regularish size coutnry
I mean, that’s more than Taiwan
NK isnt subsisting off US foreign aid money and isnt run by evil capitalists
And Russians most likely
It really is incredible what a difference it can make being North Korea, situated next to China and Russia, compared to Cuba with it being situated next to the US. Cuba would probably look more like this as well if it wasn’t located where it is.
I guess you could compare it to Venezuela and Nicaragua. Even under heavy sanctions, Venezuela still have huge shopping malls and resorts, and things have improved since Brazil and Colombia elected Socdems.
Cuba has resorts. It’s one of the most popular vacation destinations for people from Canada, if I remember correctly.
It is absolutely popular. I know people who’ve gone. They hate “The Commies”, and refuse to support AES states in any way, directly or indirectly, but they’ve visited resorts in Cuba.
Liberal cognitive dissonance is one hell of a thing.
Yes, but there are also power outages and most things are not in good condition. Cuba is still heavily dependent on Mexico, the Pink Tide/Liberal/Conservative friendly governments, China and some European states.
I hope they built this with the money they stole from crypto bros
But there’s no posh white tourists.
Every time I see a picture of North Korea I’m left stunned by how much nicer the landscape is to look at without advertising and sleaze covering every corner of the environment.
Funnily enough that’s actually one of the reasons so many people feel like there’s something off in all the photos, or that it’s all fake. Literally no context for what an industrial society without need for constant advertisement looks like.
It’s kind of scary realizing how conditioned we are to accept constant the noise of advertising
Where I live, there’s a lot of advertising, but nowhere near as bad as in the US. When I first visited the US, beyond trips to see Dad’s brother who lives there, during which we were not there long and all of the children were simply left in the home with some of the adults while others went out, I was astounded at the sheer amount of advertising. I’d never seen giant billboards on the sides of the highway before! Streetside billboards, sure. But not on a highway!
“place with many screens showing constant advertisements” describes multiple popular tourism locations
It’s kind of funny because people remark on there being heavy-handed propaganda everywhere, and they are kind of correct, but it’s way less than the corporate advertising you see in the West and actually has an argument for mostly being for the public good.
If I could replace all corporate propaganda for propaganda that was reminding you to stay healthy and contribute to your community, I’d be happy
This, absolutely. Hell, replace it with the kind of stereotypical commie propaganda the West accuses socialist states of plastering everywhere, that’d still be nicer than corporate slop.
“Please don’t litter”
“You cannot drive while drunk”"Please stop bringing electric scooters into elevators, here’s 10 minutes of security cam footage of them exploding "
It feels like the moment a leafblower I’d stopped noticing outside suddenly turns off
Do they think North Koreans just go to work and then come home and stare at the wall the rest of the day?
No, they just aren’t rendered anymore, as soon as they leave the main character’s view.
Don’t be ridiculous. The North Koreans aren’t allowed to stop working. The military police force citizens to work 24/7, and they don’t even get breaks to eat. The guards just attach feedbags full of dead rats and blades of grass to the workers’ faces so they can keep going.
No, silly, they think the people stare at the government mandated photo of the Kim family on their wall
They literally have to go to the state barber every day to get the Kim haircut
But Doctor, I am the barber
And then be immediately killed for having the Kim haircut
Unironically yes
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People eat in the DPRK, the Arduous March was 3 decades ago. It’s similar to Cuba, or even better now due to having trading partners on its door in Russia and China.
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Yes, western-centric sources indeed over-represent real problems in the DPRK and under-represent their achievements. Again, they seem to be doing about as well as Cuba, maybe a bit better, and considering the brutal sanctions on each that’s quite the feat.
Your “common knowledge” is just the western viewpoint that clings to the Arduous March and stories, both real and fake, of defectors raised during that era.
Plus, making a joke about a country having food insecurity, regardless of validity, is monstrous behavior. Even if you were correct, you’d still be a shitty person for that alone.
common knowledge
oh you sweet summer child
What do you mean??? I saw it in a dream!!
That source is extremely biased:
From their about page " Our Mission By revealing the truth, HRNK is applying pressure not only to the totalitarian regime of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea but the international community at large to effect real change. HRNK’s ultimate goal is to close North Korean gulags, open the borders so citizens can leave the country, and provide access to information throughout North Korea, including breaking the information blockade and preventing widespread access to media and news. We aim to bring about real and substantial change to the policies that obstruct the human rights of every North Korean citizen. "
In addition, the sourcing from the document you linked are south korean government agencies, rfa, and other USAID linked think tanks. Do you think that South Korea and the United States has a vested, material interest in disseminating propaganda about a country so heavily bombed that they inflicted a genocide?
Sources seem to conclude
So show one
Lmao, I’m sure the Bush School did a very serious and thorough investigation
Research into North Korea will always lack the exact data that would allow for complete certainty.
Very serious
Do North Koreans not eat or something?
They use photosynthesis like the old guy in MGS3
A lot of people will talk about how the DPRK doesnt have the same “technology” as in like there arent tech gadgets everywhere for no reason, and i can’t help but look at this and think like; How nice would this be? A pretty, clean beach town with no stupid internet shit everywhere. No advertising. I bet it has actual 3rd spaces where you can just go, and hang out without being expected to spend money. It would probably be so relaxing.
Those lake houses look like they are within reasonable walking distance of those bigger buildings, and i bet there are shops on the first floor of those. So you take a short stroll through those trees, and your at some local shop. No car needed. Since the sanctions restrict what they can get they probably have a lot of locally made stuff. Like little hand made things.
I would love to spend a few weeks there just to see what that is like.
Also i want to point out too that going off the design of those smaller buildings i think they are all multi-family units. Like the red ones seem to be split between upstairs/downstairs units, and the grey/beige ones look like they could have 2 units on each floor. Just going off the way the balconies are arranged, and the shape of the buildings. So these are clearly designed with the desire to house lots of middle-class-esque families while the larger white buildings are probably the even more affordable option. So the west will try to say this is for the “Kim family” or some other “elite class” of the DPRK but it seems pretty obviously designed for use by the masses not by a small number of elites.
I would guess the skyscrapers are the cheapest option, the gray/beige ones are the mid range option, and the red ones are the most expensive(maybe meant for foreigners specifically? Would be easy for them to find if they know their place is a different color, and the signs are in korean). Makes sense to have the most expensive ones along the water too. It looks really well thought out, and like it was designed to actually be a very nice place to go visit.
Think we could get a group rate if we all agreed to go together?
Bit idea: scheduling the Hexbear meet up in the DPRK and having the hotel list it as the “turbo lib convention.”
Tbh, a huge commie meetup where a bunch of different leftist groups from all over the world are all converging in one place, and telling the country involved’s government and the hotel/conference center we were something incredibly lame and apolitical or obviously liberal, would be pretty funny.
I would absolutely do a Hexbear group trip if it was happening.
Hopefully we could organise something way better than when Tumblr tried to do a convention, lol.
I have all sorts of diseases, we would be quarantined
You know it
every week 20,000 people will be forced to lounge at gunpoint! in the evenings they will be brutally entertained!The lazy river… Of Death!
Boy boy should visit
GHOST BEACH CITIES
Just like China’s “ghost cities” which are now not ghost cities they’re going to pretend this is all some spooky stupid shit instead of acknowledging that they’re being constructed as part of long term plans and expectations in the future.
The biggest concern the west has about tourism in dprk however is that it undermines the idea it is “closed” and that people know nothing about what is going on there.
