• purpleworm [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    9 days ago

    Paul hasn’t rigged fights (unlike Tate, who padded his record with professional throwers), he just fights really incapable opponents, like retirees and such.

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      One of my biggest triggers is people thinking the Tyson fight was fixed because Tyson didnt kill him lol.

      People really mythologized him into some insane killer at the age of 60 lol. Ive had to watch all my favorite fighters get killed by father time and it is WILD to see people think that the age didnt matter. Of course a guy in his physical prime with some conditioning and mediocre boxing skills can out move and out throw a 60 year old Tyson lol

      Anyway I just wanted to rant about that lol.

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        I appreciate it, since some people don’t know the context. Tyson didn’t look like he was even fit to run faster than a jog, but people just sort of glossed over it to make conspiracy theories that he threw rather than see that he obviously took a match he was way too old to realistically win for the sake of whatever they were paying him.

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          People usually do the “but he looked so strong and fast in his training videos!” Yeah man hes going 100% for like 20 seconds lol. Thats not how a professional fight goes. It was honestly embarassing as fuck for the whole thing.

          But tbf when AJ fought him I was like “lol wow he is actually going to die to AJ” and it was 5 rounds of AJ playing with him until he just destroyed him lol

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        9 days ago

        I blame the media that shows some old guy beat up a younger guy saying “heh, nice try, kid” and not him on a morphine drip having his knees rebuilt with NASA science after

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        He’s not fixing the fights, yea.

        Instead, he is very carefully selecting opponents he can actually beat. Which is washed fighters, or fighters who aren’t boxers he forces into a boxing match. Like, people act like a MMA grappler should magically be able to beat a boxer in a boxing match where grappling is illegal

        I don’t know what you call that. Career fixing?

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          If there was any fix, it was to ensure Jake Paul didn’t kill Tyson. You’re severely underestimating how advantageous youth and PEDs are and how much wear and tear a professional athlete competing at a world class level accumulates even if they stay mostly untouched inside the ring and in the healthiest regimen outside of it, which Tyson definitely didn’t.

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        It was fixed. He pulled his punches. Compare that fight to his fight vs Roy Jones Jr where he also didnt go hard to the head but didnt hold back on technique

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          It really aint man. The rjj fight was 5 years ago and it still slowed down. Roy is also old as fuck, you can just go like that on a guy who can just walk backward faster than your old ass can approach.

          If Jake beat AJ or even went the distance with him it would be fishy as fuck, and he got smoked when AJ decided to stop playing with his food. Mike Tyson is just an old man. Like literally a 100 year old man in fight years.

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      all of his fights vs pro or ex pro fighters are fixed. Joshua def went off script. Anderson Silva is a clever counterstriker, what he did against whatever Paul brother in that ring, that wasn’t him. Neither Paul brothers would be considered good amateur fighters much-less pro fighters.

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        I agree that Paul is not a real pro fighter, but this fixing stuff is genuinely just cope. He was just exploiting people who could be used to hype up the match without being serious opponents (at that time, in boxing specifically)

        Paul has unlimited money and time for fitness, personal trainers, coaches, facilities, medical care, etc. He has no talent but he has the brute force of wealth and youth and that’s enough to crush surgically selected opponents even if he could never be a pro (and he could never be a pro).

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        Anderson Silva was past his physical prime when he won the UFC title, he then kept it for over 5 years, fought another 5, retired, moved onto boxing, and fought Jake Paul at nearly 50 years old.

        Jake isn’t an actual world class pro, but he didn’t need to fix fights to win against his cherry picked opposition of retired, much lighter fighters from an entirely different sport.

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      I gotta be honest and say I think its both. That tongue thing just seems like a signal, and I hate the guy and this makes it funnier so therefore I believe it.
      He picks easy fights and gives himself a tool to cool things down if it gets too hard.