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Every injury you get before 27 is permanent, too. They just hide away until you hit middle age before popping up as recurring aches.
Yeah, suddenly they ALL come back with a vengeance when in your 40s…
Oh god yes! I wish to fuck I’d warmed up and stretched properly before exercise when I was young
I curled and played hockey in high school. Played a lot of ball hockey as an adult.
No amount of pre-game stretching helps. It helps you from fucking something up during the game, but it doesn’t prevent the long term wear and tear.
I remember running from my car straight onto the field to play Ultimate (frisbee). Nowadays I hurt myself walking to the fridge.
This is something only sedentary people say, like its some kind of universal truth but really all it is is the consequences of not exercising.
Meh, I’m 38, been very active my whole life (small blip because of the Vid and the crippling depression and chronic drinking that came with it), but I notice recovery time for injury, while not permanent, is way longer than it was at 27, and more for 18. Goes for exhaustion and hangovers too. Shit just lingers.
But we beat on, you know? Can’t just stop.
Except when you injure a disc. I would definitely stop if you can work remote, take vacation, etc…
Back stuff has made people commit suicide the pain is such a big detriment to their life. You want to do anything you can to give yourself the best chance at recovery.
Oh yeah, I had a disk pinching a sciatic nerve. Oh boy, I tell you, that nerve doesn’t care what age you are. Everything is totally fine physically you just can’t move or you get shocked in the brain part of your brain with an infinite amount of pain that feels like pain. You know the pain you get when you cut yourself accidentally from one end of your leg up to your entire body? Just like that.
Injuries rack up, even if you’re not sedentary. I’m in my 40s and most of my aches and pains come from sport or weightlifting injuries.
I work out 5 days a week. I fell while skiing for the first time and popped my knee in a bad way. It still hurts months later.
I’ve played hockey, curling, baseball, snowboard, football, running, and a variety of other outdoor games and such my entire adult life.
My body hurts. I’m turning 40 this year. The fact some dipshit like @verrymay@lemmy.world wants to be some condescending asshole? That type of comment comes from someone who’s never done any physical activity in their life.
I know people who have played various sports at extremely high levels. Their bodies hurt just the same. This dipshit probably gets winded walking to the fridge.
You sound like someone working out and complaining they ache after a car crash.
There is a difference between being a couch potato and just normally active and being a professional athlete and doing destructive sports.
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You’ve never broken your ankle I see.
wfh is not good for my body. it can be hard to get proper movement in on busy days where everything is a priority and shit keeps coming up.
it definitely takes more intention to keep up an appropriate level of activity, both during the work day and before/after. I didn’t have these issues before wfh
Was working in an office really any better in that regard?
I mean, in that it requires you to go out, be somewhere in person, and makes it easier to do something else on the way back home. Not a lot better but if your movement is otherwise unstructured it’s better than nothing.
setting up for some simple movements at home can really go a long way though. and definitely wish more offices had some simple weights, mats etc on hand (excluding the offices that have a gym to encourage you to be at work all the time)
yes. I have much farther to go to get to the coffee machine or washroom, and people flag me down on the way to talk about whatever problem they’re having. or I give a hand to someone who is moving something, or just take a minute to stand and see how the progress is on building the machine
for me, very much different from just sitting or standing in front of my desk and going ten steps to the bathroom and 25 to the kitchen
also for the second part, it’s a lot easier to fall into the trap of never going “out” if you wfh and are already set to get comfy on the couch. if you have a commute, you’re already out. lower barrier. not a big one, and mostly mental - but it’s there. which is why common advice that I very much agree with is to create some sort of commute when you wfh, even if that’s just a two minute walk around the block.
If you have the time to do it at the office you have the time to do the equivalent at home. If your problem is that you need some kind of goal to get your exercise, I can only really say to make exercise your goal (get over yourself).
This is something that only privileged people who haven’t really been injured and don’t have bad genes say.
Copying my comment from another reply because fuck you.
I was temporarily paralyzed when I was 14 at a Cadet fitness weekend when I was in grade 8. Even though I gained movement again I’m still stuck with back pain and I’m turning 40 this year.
My right wrist is fucked from creative writing in college.
My right knee hurts day to day from ball hockey. My right shoulder the same thing from getting tripped and hyper-extending it on the court.
My left knee hurts day to day driving a transport truck with a clutch for the past 8 years. Also hockey from being a goalie in my early days.
No, there are a LOT of things that happen along the way that become permanent. Outside of my spinal issues most of my day to day pain is from adulthood.
You don’t ever get over a injury, you just kind of forget about the pain after awhile.
It’s pretty easy when it just amalgamates into the previous other pains.
Noup. Modern sedentary lifestyle and often times fast food diet is really bad for the body. Making 30 year olds, who should be almost at the peak of their performance, equal to geriatrics.
And people really like to milk that stereotype, because it removes the responsibility of taking care of your body. “it’s happening to everyone, it’s supposed to be this way.”
No, it isn’t. Your body isn’t supposed to suddenly break down on your 30th birthday. That’s just the lack of maintenance catching up and the saddest part is. That number is getting lower.
Of course there are exceptions, but exceptions wouldn’t create so popular stereotype.
But don’t worry, it’s not too late to start, even now.
I nearly pulled my arm out of the socket when I was in my late 30’s hurt so damn bad that I didn’t want to bend it certain ways. Stayed like that for about 2 months until I saw my doctor and he told me I was babying it too much and I should do certain exercises.
Hurt like a motherfucker to do the exercises each time. After about 1-week it was immensely better, exercising it every morning than at night.
After about a month I forgot it hurt unless I stretched it back really far to put on a jacket or reach behind me. Worked on that for about 4 months and finally it stopped hurting altogether.
Moral of the story, something’s just break. But typically if it’s meat you got to work on it.
My folks never did exercises their doctor told them to do after hip surgery or other trauma. Eventually they got so weak they could barely stand because they’d just lay in bed for days to “heal”. That will bite you in ass much harder if you don’t move. Keep pushing yourself, it takes a long time but it will get better, not worse.
Yeah even after major surgeries they usually try to get you up and moving as quickly as possible. If you just lay down your muscles will atrophy quick, and the scars inside and outside can more easily form in ways that might cause huge problems later on, or simply just restrict your movement. Moving also helps your guts work, fluids flow, and the usual processes working kinda means the healing will kick in too
I had major surgery last summer. I was told full recovery was about an 8 month process and I read a lot of people online saying they didn’t feel fully recovered for a year afterwards. I wasn’t allowed to do any exercise except walking for 2 months following the surgery, but was told to walk as much as possible to help recovery. I started a little too soon, I was told to wait at least a week but was out hobbling very short distances around my neighborhood by day 3 because I was coughing a lot and was afraid of getting pneumonia and I’m also terrified of blood clots. By 10 days I was walking a few miles every day and after a few weeks I started doing gentle hikes. I felt pretty much 90% back to normal by about 2 months, which was when I was allowed to go back to work, and by 2 1/2 to 3 months I felt completely recovered and back to normal.
Been working on my uneven hips, spine, and shoulders for a year. Getting things aligned was body horror before and took days, now I can get it aligned after stretching out the morning rust. Still a problem but making progress. If I’m lazy a few days its a mess.
congratulations on your progress, being able to get into alignment is a huge milestone!! on a similar journey myself, it’s a daily struggle but these things really can get better.
Thanks, wish it was more reliable. My shoulder hurts today but I kept it strait most the day. What I get for sitting in front a computer all day…
Muscle will heal, even joints can regain some health and extra muscle mass takes the load off from joints. Better cardiovascular health improves nutrient delivery which improves healing.
Yeah that laying down in bed for days was the worst thing they could do. Their bodies cannibalized even the muscle requred for basic movement, just because it wasn’t necessary anymore.
You’re 100% correct except for one thing, when you have those socket problems your exercises should not hurt. As in, if it hurts, stop or do it “smaller”.
It’s long long long (you should probably always check/feel if you need just a little of that exercise from now and then), but if it hurts you might actually make it worse. Cool you got through it, cheers!
Ehhh… It’s more complicated than that, at least in regards to bone and joint health.
During your thirties is when hormones tend to slow down and people start to lose some of their muscle and bone density. Even if you remain active, you will still degrade in musculoskeletal health, just at a slower pace.
Injuries do heal slower, and you start to acquire overuse injuries. Which is why so many people in their 40s are starting to have to have total and partial knee replacements.
I work in orthopedics and rehabilitation, and see a ton of marathon runners for chronic knee, ankle, and foot injuries. I highly recommend people migrate to more low impact cardio activities for exercise before their 40s so you can maintain your mobility later in life.
Technically yeah, like from 30s we start to lose roughly 1% of muscle mass per year, but that’s from the max. Average person never reaches anywhere close to their maximum potential for that to matter. Basic day to day life is throwing enough wrenches into training and dieting to keep people far away from their maximum potential.
Though the safety aspect is a good point. I completely agree that if we’re talking about cardio training then low impact like cycling, elliptical, swimming, rowing are better alternatives than running, exactly due to the issues you mentioned.
And as we are already talking about safety aspect of training.
Then one of the most common way to resistance train, that i regularly see in the gym is doing max effort/1 rep max lifts basically every single workout. This is one of the highest risk and lowest growth stimulating way to lift. Oftentimes that results in form breaking down completely and parts of the body that haven’t caught up yet taking over, in best case just really bad form and minimal growth stimulus and worst case getting stuck under a barbell or pulling some muscle or injuring the back.Overwhelming majority of resistance training should be done in repetition range(generally 8-12, but anything between 5-30 is good enough). It provides the most stimulus to growth, with the lowest injury risk, assuming effort is already there.
Yep. Your body is “use it or lose it”. Im in the gym 3 days a week and I feel better and more capable than I ever did as a teen.
It’s also kind of a cycle. People who arent active feel their body suffer through day to day movements and think that the gym would genuinely ruin them. They dont realize that it would actually improve their problems, not worsen them, because the lack of activity IS the problem.
Yeah, spot on. Gym helps to raise the bodies capacity beyond whats required for day to day activities, so that day to day activities will no longer hard.
And yeah it is “use it or lose it” if the environment no longer requires extra performance. The body absobrs it back to make use of the nutrients in other parts. 2-3 months of no training is enough to be back at square one, though building it back is going to be easier.
I feel better in my mid-30s than my mid-20s. Less aches and pains, and I feel like I recover from injuries quicker. I eat better and go to the gym regularly. I also was finally able to find a doctor to help me get some chronic health issues under control (ironically I had to get old enough that they stopped telling me I was too young to have the issues I was having and started being willing to treat them) and I’m no longer in an unhealthy relationship. Less stress + better health + better habits = feeling younger.
I want to complain, but for most people this will be true. The most boring stock standard fitness and lifestyle advice will, and it pains me to admit this, absolutely improve your quality of life in every way.
It’s not like you’re guaranteed to feel amazing, but the bads won’t feel as bad, and you’ll just feel a little bit better than if you did nothing.
Fml but the normies had this one right 🤷
I want to complain too. I slacked off the last 2-3 weeks and went to the gym less often. I’ve still been far more active in these past 2-3 weeks than I was even a year ago and still got several hours of exercise each week, but I’ve not been as active as I’ve been the past few months. I can’t believe how shitty I’ve felt the last few days. Time to stop being lazy and get my ass back in gear.
It’s always a struggle but it’s always worth it. Shame it’s so hard to see how worth it it is from this side of things
Can confirm, aches and pains went away after I started exercising regularly. Wasn’t instant but some are just gone now. It’s amazing how little it takes to make a difference if you don’t do anything.
Yes, after starting to train there isn’t a thing in my day to day life that can cause me issues.
Took the words out of my mouth. I’m a huge combat sports fan and people call me old for being in my late 20s. But I see dudes in their 30s killing it in these sports so I can’t take it seriously.
I was having horrible ankle and knee pain. People just kept acting like it was just normal arthritis because I’m closing in on 30. I started going to the gym and have no issues with either anymore besides my right knee popping more than when I was younger. Most people wouldnt go to the gym because of their pain. I couldn’t accept how bad I let my health get. I always knew it was my choices of fast food, hard drugs and sedentary lifestyle that was hurting me. When I made lifestyle changes I’m way more athletic and pain free than I was earlier in my 20s.
In one of the early UFCs there was a dude in his 50s competing. He lost, but that’s still pretty fucking impressive.
I never wanna see anyone 40+ do pro combat sports but you gotta respect it when they do it anyways lol especially if they’re competitive
Wait till you find out that they’re all hooked on opioids.
You’re in your 20s dude, you might not want to be so confident about how your body is going to feel in 10-15 years. Especially if you’re doing combat sports.
I’m only agreeing that late 20s isn’t the time your body is supposed to break down. I feel it’s actually the late 30s. Late 20s and early to mid 30s is prime time.
Wait til you’re in your 40s and hearing about someone else being hurt injures you permanently.
Maybe you just need to have one every day until your body is just one big, calcified injury, then nothing will be an injury.
Source: Blue Collar worker
Make sure you’re meeting all of your body’s nutritional needs and not poisoning it too much because that shouldn’t be the case until much later. Also exercise and see a physiotherapist if you have any chronic issues with your joints before a pain devolves into an injury.
I used to have an issue with my shoulders but it turned out to just be happening because my poor posture and lack of physical activity resulted in some of the shoulder support muscles being too weak to support some things like leaning on my shoulder while lying down without suffering for it the next day. A physiotherapist gave me a short list of exercises to do and my shoulders are great today, despite it being years since I last did any of those exercises, though I do make a conscious effort to put my shoulders back into a good posture whenever I’m about to do something with them that involves force. That might have become a permanent injury if I hadn’t strengthened those muscles up and did something that caused them to tear or the joint to dislocate.
Unless you live in America. If you do, you just get a sheet on basic exercises, and an appointment for physical therapy 8 years out.
After a few months you forget what caused *that* particular hurt…
Major injuries after 27 are permanent
Minor injuries after 27 take months, years before they heal
You’re invincible from teens to early twenty’s. Around 25 is when you become officially old by most accounts (and even mentally I felt it), and your body slowly deteriorates and finding yourself increasingly more tired. The metabolism changes and can’t handle alcohol and can’t drink alcoholic drinks anymore because the liver can’t handle it.
Thankfully, there are nonalcoholic versions of my favourite drink but it’s not the same as getting the buzz 🤣
Her podcast, Dungeons and Daddies, is pretty great if you’re into actual play.
Even if you’re not, really.
And hey, Ashlee Birch is in the new season!Ashly agreeing to that just so her brother would have to hear it every episode is a peak sibling prank move
Wish this were true and I was actually invincible as a teenager. I would have a lot more of my parts still. Also my fucking knees and lower back wouldn’t be blown out already.
Please, please be careful. Don’t put yourself in a situation where you can get injured even in a boring, mundane way. You never recover fully from injuries. They stay with you, even if you don’t notice it.
Sometimes life won’t give you a choice. I broke my pinky… crouching down to change a diaper. Mallet finger. Weirdly easy to snap.
I herniated a cervical disc simply sitting up to get out of bed. As an athletic 17-year-old. Have had arthritis in the neck as a result since I was about 30.
Way too many people here think injuries and health problems are always that person’s fault.
I haven’t experienced this problem yet and I am in my 30s.
I’m 41 and genuinely feel fitter than 10 years ago. The biggest downside is that i’m not a rubberball anymore. I used to skate almost every day since i could walk until 28 ish. The falls i had where i just got up and keep going is unthinkable now.
Some of us get lucky a lot. Watch your back. No, literally, take care of your back.
I went for a short walk recently in new shoes and rubbed the back of my ankle slightly raw. It’s been two weeks waiting for this minor abrasion to heal. I’ve got shit to do! This is biking weather, damnit.
Moleskin! Excellent for protecting blisters and abrasions.
Also, two weeks? You want to tell your doctor if abrasions on your feet are taking a long time to heal.
