carbrain is “this is the fault of 3 million parallel, separated, individual actors” a lot

  • Rom [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    2 months ago

    I think the problem is most people suck at driving but they are forced to because there are literally no alternative methods of transportation in like 95% of burgerland. A robust public transit system would do a lot to mitigate this, both tailgaters and tailgatees.

  • DogThatWentGorp [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    I love watching tailgating. It’s a microcosm for the futility of hyper-individualism.

    No, the car in front of you will not de-matrrialize like an ghost if you get behind them long enough. Nor will I. I am in charge of your destiny if not only because you put so much stake in trying to egg me on instead of passing.

    I’m not even sure if those kinds of people don’t consciously either I swear like 80% if the time someone will tailgate, maybe pass or have the person in front of them change lanes, and then just tailgate the next person

    And oh FUCKING man, when you notice someone driving like an ass on the freeway and you pull up 1 car length behind them on an offramp when you just hit the second lane and cruise controlled at 70 the whole time: that shit hits like a drug. Nothing like it.

    • WalrusDragonOnABike [they/them]@reddthat.com
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      And oh FUCKING man, when you notice someone driving like an ass on the freeway and you pull up 1 car length behind them on an offramp when you just hit the second lane and cruise controlled at 70 the whole time: that shit hits like a drug. Nothing like it.

      My favorite is when someone is riding aggressively and tailgating and then try to pass the person they were tailing on the right when there’s perfectly clear lanes to the left and I can slow down just enough to block them from being able to get in front of that other car and force them to slow down to get around the car they were tailgating just to pass on the left.

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        I used to have a long commute on an old one-way highway with two lanes. Pulling stuff like that was the highlight of most of my days.

        The people in F250s cannot handle when two small cars are adjacent to each other going the speed limit.

        Oh you want to aggressively pass? Okay I’ll go 1 mph faster than the other car to slowly make a gap. Oh wait actually I’m gonna go 1 mph slower than them, that’s safer.

        • WalrusDragonOnABike [they/them]@reddthat.com
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          Most of my driving is on like a 300-lane* highway and I usually try to avoid the 1-2 most leftward lanes (depending on the total number of lanes) if I’m not passing other cars and frequently get over into a slower lane to let cars pass if they’re not tailgating, so that type of behavior feels even more absurd. Unfortunately, it means the situation where you are able to troll so well are much rarer since often there’s also more lanes to even further to the right to pass in if they’re willing to floor it and pass into small gaps between cars while going 80+ mphs (which they are).

          *Might be slightly exaggerated.

        • Camden28 [any, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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          I understand your hatred for the F250s being aggressive, but the two of you blocking the freeway are making life miserable for the dozen of us behind them who would like to get to our destinations uneventfully. Please stop playing games with traffic.

    • 7bicycles [he/him]@hexbear.netOP
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      I’m not even sure if those kinds of people don’t consciously either I swear like 80% if the time someone will tailgate, maybe pass or have the person in front of them change lanes, and then just tailgate the next person

      The cyclist anglophone world calls this MGIF-Syndrome: Must get in front.

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        The cyclist variant of MGIF-syndrome is when you pass someone and then at the next red light they catch up to you AND they pull in front of you, but they’re still slow as shit so you pass them again and this pattern continues. I would understand if they at least accelerated fast, but they don’t. I always feel like grabbing them and asking them “WHY???”

  • SerialExperimentsGay [she/her, she/her]@hexbear.net
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    When everyone is tailgating behind you, the problem in most cases is actually car centric infrastructure and the fact that traffic past a certain density stops behaving like individual motor vehicles and starts to behave like a fluid (similar things go for dense crowds of pedestrians, btw).

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    2 months ago
    Tangentially related, but mostly just venting

    Oh no, I’m leaving at least 3 seconds of space to the car in front of me, the horror! I’m glad you almost got us into a wreck to get ahead of me in tight traffic during rush hour by not using your blinkers. You are now going exactly the same speed you were before, except you are now one car ahead. Stand proud, you’re deranged.

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      Recently went on an impromptu road trip across a good chunk of the Western US. Fuck Idaho and Washington drivers. Thought it was just my imagination living out here for so ling but nope, these people just suck extra hard on the road and hate seeing you leave any space at all in front of you if they can squeeze in for a quarter mile then back to their original lane for no reason.

      Don’t get me started on merging…

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    I wish people understood that the distance between your car and the one in front of you does not affect your speed at all. Stop tailing people who are stuck behind slowpokes. They can’t go any faster and neither can you.

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    Completely antisocial behavior, and it’s always the ones with the gigantic SUV that think they’ve got a right to be driving recklessly just because they can afford a killing machine.

    I hate that there’s no law enforcement on it while there is on driving a bit over the speed limit on a highway, the first is definitely the more dangerous thing to do, just like the people that cut everyone off by doing reckless zigzags.

    I’ve seen people do this in ways that I would 100% no second thoughts take their license away forever and fine them a crapton if it were up to me, these people should not be given the right to drive their own vehicles if they cannot control themselves and be a normal part of society.

    Make them take the bus for life, that way maybe they will grow a social consciousness and see the need for better public transport that everyone benefits from.

    • whiskers165 [she/her, she/her]@hexbear.net
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      It’s illegal to tailgate in many places. I’ve seen and heard of many cases of people being ticketed or even arrested if they catch other charges on top of it like using a vehicle as weapon or dangerous/reckless driving. The really bad offenders eventually do get caught even if they are getting away with it 99% of the time. Traffic court is full of these MFers everyday

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    Bro I was going 48 in a 45, on a 2 lane (1 each way) road between 2 parks. Some jackass decided I wasn’t going fast enough so they passed me. Immediately caught up to them at the light like 1/10th a mile later. People do not understand safety, speed, driving, etc.

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    Saw 95 comments in this post and was like oh no struggle sesh but very relieved to open it and see it’s just everyone piling on cars and aggro drivers wholesome


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      Both time to react and impact absorbed by your brain and body are highly dependent on velocity. Cars should not be going faster than 70 mph. The only reason speed limits allow it is carbrain lobbying.

          • Omegamint [comrade/them, doe/deer]@hexbear.net
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            First time I drove on one of these it scared the shit out of me. Like now the ceiling is 85, so the people speeding are going faster than that and it’s terrifying. I’m not a bad driver either, done a lot of jobs that involve driving and I have a spotless record. Those speeds are just stupid

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              Worst is Texas where it has 85mph roads in areas where the roads are still going through towns.

              You basically get up to 85 and then hit the next town so have to slow down again while those behind you are upset you aren’t flooring it each time

            • THEPH0NECOMPANY [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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              There are some very long stretches of highway in the US that see little to no traffic so it’s not that big of an issue.

              When I was moving cross country I had to drive through some empty states where I could drive for over an hour without seeing someone else.

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                I’ve driven tens of thousands of miles back and forth across the country, often through fields or desert with no cars visible for miles. Going over 70 is still pointless.

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                  For a 1,000 mile trip, driving 85 instead of 70 can save 2.5 hours. That’s a pretty compelling reason to do it when the road is perfectly straight and flat for most of that journey.

                  The increased fuel consumption and reduced ability to avoid animals would be bigger concerns to me than personal safety

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    Whenever I play never have I ever, I always use “never have I ever driven over 80mph” as an easy out, loads of fingers go down.

    Totally makes up for it when statements about butt stuff come up and I get out.

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    Na, I just tip the break pedal for a second to light the break-lights, which reliably will convert my tailgater to the problem again.