• Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    3 months ago

    As expected, going the way of Bill Maher and Destiny. Being a reactionary liberal who hates the Republicans while increasingly agreeing with them. Also known as a scratched liberal.

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    Okay so I’m just gonna say some stuff and I haven’t really thought about this too much so I’m shooting from the hip here but it seams like being a TERF takes vastly more effort than not being a TERF. Like it’s way more work than being a bog standard misogynist. So the issue isn’t that they are lazy, per se, it’s that they’ve chosen to die on this very frustrating reactionary hill. So you can’t even kinda defend them by calling it ignorance. No, they had to do work to get here, and they still concluded the worst fucking things.

    I try to be nice to people and be patient and tolerant because, partly, I can. That’s a privilege I have as a cis man. Somebody saying “I hate trans people” isn’t a direct threat to me. I still condemn it, I tell them to shut the fuck up, but I can afford to try to talk them down from those rhetorical ledges because I’m not in the cross hairs, if you know what I am saying. I can try to interrogate them and be a little more objective about it because I’m not having to defend my right to exist. Like it’s one of those fucked up ways where you can use their bigotry to shut down a bigot and I’m willing to use any tool I can to combat that stuff. Again, it’s how I can use my privilege. Privilege doesn’t go away because I pretend it doesn’t exist so I should use it tactically.

    The point I’m trying to make here is that I don’t extend that to TERFs because they’ve clearly thought about it! They’ve rehearsed talking points and stuck their heads in sand. So they should be bullied into oblivion.

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    3 months ago

    I can’t quite remember who she is. Could I get summary - I hope it’s a couple paragraphs.

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    Out of curiosity - I read her post.

    I don’t know what my political identity or label is, and I’m not even sure I want to be pigeonholed.

    Does that mean she’s a libertarian?

    This comment made me laugh.

    “I am not altogether on anybody’s side, because nobody is altogether on my side, if you understand me" - Treebeard

    The first time I read those words I couldn’t understand how much I would come to relate to them…

    [Liked by Ana Kasparian]

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      I really wouldn’t use very old racist typologies. If you were, you’d say she was of the Armenoid sub-race.

      Some Nazi thoughts on the “armenoid” sub-race

      In his works, Hans F.K. Günther portrayed the Jewish people as a specifically non-European racial mixture comprising Armenoid, Semitic, and Negroid elements.

      The German physical anthropologist Egon Freiherr von Eickstedt characterized the Jews as a racial mixture that is primarily of the Armenoid type.

      According to Croatian fascist Ustaše ideologists, only 5% of Croats, but 35% of Serbs were of the Armenoid race.

      They described the race as being “characterized by a dark complexion and a personality prone to trickery, fawning and cheating”.

      In the early 1900s in the US:

      Armenians were also vilified for being stereotypically thievish and dishonest. Adults and children alike regularly faced racial invectives such as “dirty black Armenian,” “low-class Jew,” and – most commonly – “Fresno Indian.”

      I think Armenians are generally seen as white in anglo countries, but it’s not a stable category.

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      I feel like I’ve never heard of most of these former left grifters till after they come out as former left grifters.

      One exception being that annoying podcaster who was pretending to date Adam Friedland so people wouldn’t think he’s homo.

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    Honestly everyday that Cenk doesn’t fire her he’s just blasting his own future prospects. But at this point it’s pretty clear that he doesn’t disagree enough or care enough (or agrees with her…).

    TYT would better than letting your conservative dad watch Fox, CNN, etc.

    But just barely.

    That’s basically all it’s ever been. Something closer to “reality” but still definitely in the sphere of western bullshit.

    And I’m just talking about how they discuss issues broadly. Not the editorialized rants that they go on, especially Ana

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        I can only think of a solid like 3 times I’ve watched clips from TYT that weren’t just Ana focused. One was when Hasan said America deserved a specific event. And probably some other stuff.

        Cenk’s reactionary viewpoints are different from what I’ve see. Like he hates homeless people and loves cops. Complains about other shit that right wingers have dragged into “political” discussions (things that shouldn’t be up for debate.).

        I just know Ana has been on a bridge-burning expedition to the far right for years now and while Cenk definitely agrees on some stuff, he doesn’t come off as gung ho “this is my hill. I will die here.” His hill is “homeless people are homeless because they’re morally bad and should be rounded up and… not shot! No, no not that!” Even though that’s clearly something he leans towards but knows he can’t just say it or people will realize how shitty his pro-police, anti-people policy ideas are.

        Maybe he doesn’t touch trans issues (much) because Ana has it nailed down for the show or because he’s uncomfortable, but she certainly doesn’t feel any discomfort. Just keeps blabbing for years too, nonstop, over the perceived grievance of allegedly someone one time calling her a “birthing person” in a medical context. She took that shit personal… for no apparent reason other than stirring up unnecessary shit. Even got Ben Shabibo to make a video about the terminology. Ben “my mommy I mean wife is a doctor” Shapiro ranting about medical terminology… peak irony, peak idiocracy, who knows anymore