Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. Also, happy April Fool’s in advance.)

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    Australian chemist and videographer Explosions & Fire argues convincingly that the ongoing recent radioactive-boy-scout scandal should not result in prosecution. For context, a 24-year-old man ordered small samples of radioactive isotopes from the USA, Australia failed to intercept it at the border, and they are prosecuting him in order to avoid embarrassment over incompetence. I don’t have a choice sneer; E&F is unwaveringly energized over the topic of radioactive isotopes and injustice, and the whole thing is worth watching.

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    AI Overturns Centuries of Forensic Fingerprinting Practice?

    Published in Science… Advances

    Probably a fair bit to sneer at in the actual study that I’m missing, and the article I first found it in is peak AI Hype. (Big Forensics is trying to keep you from knowing the Truth as found by an undergrad with a GPU) But the part that I found most concerning is that even the whole paper doesn’t appear to break down their 77% accuracy index and provide the specific result ratios that go into it. In a field where each false positive represents a step on the road to innocent people being convicted of major crimes I would really like to know that number specifically.

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      At a <30s glance, I’m going to guess the model is finding correlations in the artefacts of fingerprint taking, digitalisation, presentation and so on instead of fingerprints proper, like every damn time this sort of story comes up.

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    Linking this article just for the Palantir CEO quote at the end https://www.wired.com/story/doge-hackathon-irs-data-palantir/

    “We love disruption and whatever is good for America will be good for Americans and very good for Palantir,” Palantir CEO Alex Karp said in a February earnings call. “Disruption at the end of the day exposes things that aren’t working. There will be ups and downs. This is a revolution, some people are going to get their heads cut off.”

    This is a revolution, some people are going to get their heads cut off

    Holy smokes

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    llama 4

    with a whole 2 Ts!

    taking bets on whether that’s 2 terminators or whether it’s the amount of USD they want to burn to make it into a machine god

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      Llama 4 Maverick offers a best-in-class performance to cost ratio with an experimental chat version scoring ELO of 1417 on LMArena.

      Everything on that page is silly nonsense, but this takes the cake. An Elo rating for chitchat!!!

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        coming up soon: tacticool arena prompt fights, where they get ranked on style and guile

        (as was said on whose line is it anyway: “where everything is made up and the points don’t matter”)

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      Neither, actually. They were testing it by asking how many "T"s appeared in “Llama Four” and it kept saying “2” so they decided to roll with it.

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    Banger meme from artist Victoria Ying

    description:

    It’s a scene from White Lotus. A man and a woman are lying on beach chairs, having a conversation.

    Panel 1, Man: ‘Why can’t you just like my generative AI “art?”’

    Panel 2, Woman: ‘You have to be vulnerable enough to be bad at something to be good at it, but you’re too much of a coward.’

    Panel 3, Woman: ‘Because you’re soulless.”

    Panel 4: Man is speechless, visibly shook

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    a journalist wants to ask me about Urbit. Should I install Urbit so I can at least say I’ve tried it and can speak authoritatively?

    [ ] no
    [ ] hell no
    [ ] jesus h. christ no why

    i just had a 1.5 hour half-hour chat with another journalist about the Fucking Rationalists

    i have a call with a third one scheduled for tomorrow

    i have followed these fucks for 15 years in detail and i still don’t know how to properly explain them to our lovely pivot-to-ai readers

    at least it’ll be these suckers’ job to do the explaining while i rant

    fuck. it’s rationalist season

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      @dgerard @BlueMonday1984 I’ve been following them for 35 years—hell, I hung out with Curtis Yarvin on usenet in the early 90s, visited him and fondled his lizard once in '93—and the only way I can explain them is that they’re larping a bad post-cyberpunk novel and aren’t entirely clear on the whole concept of “fiction”.

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        I also legitimately can’t tell the degree to which they don’t understand they’re LARPing a dystopia versus how much they completely understand that and that’s why it’s gonna be so awesome for them once they make fetch happen.

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          @YourNetworkIsHaunted It’s probably a mixture: some of them understand the relationship between beliefs and reality, a whole bunch of others are LARPing away (and we’d all be better off if they signed up to play EVE Online instead), there are probably some today who look at Yarvin and see a ladder to power and wealth, and everything in between.

          You can’t ascribe unity of understanding and intention to any group of n > 1 humans.

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          @gerikson I mean, I *literally* fondled his lizard: it was about two feet long, green, and quite bad-tempered. (He and his student house had a room full of iguanas and snakes and suchlike. And a kitchen fridge door full of designer phenylethylamine hallucinogens. Or at least test tubes with labels identifying them as such. It was an eye-opening experience …

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            Sheesh. Everyone knows you keep the phenethylamines inside the fridge proper, not on the door, where the temperature is less stable. (Source: the Shulgins’ Kitchen Procedures I Have Known And Loved.)

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              now you’ve got me thinking if storage in fridge is necessary at all, if these are salts. worst thing that can reasonably happen is that salt picks up some water from the air, on top of water condensing on sample when vial was opened while still cold. freebase would probably be air-sensitive, but for compounds that are known sensitive i’d put them under argon/nitrogen, tape vial shut (with normal electrical tape, not parafilm) and store in freezer instead. sigma lists storage temperature for MDMA analytical standard (weak solution of freebase in methanol) as -20C, but some of this might be legal cover with excess requirements for cases where you’d have to be absolutely sure that analytical standard didn’t decompose (like in evidence in drug cases)

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      We need something like Bare-faced Messiah, but with fedoras. People will stick with a bizzare, complex story with lots of moving parts as long as it’s told well.

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      “i have followed these fucks for 15 years in detail and i still don’t know how to properly explain them to our lovely pivot-to-ai readers”

      Personally, focusing on their whacko beliefs around the Impending AI Apocalypsetm seems like a good place to start.

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        “Yudkowsky sincerely believes the following. You’ll recognise it because Altman uses it as marketing buzzwords.”

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          “This Is What Yudkowsky Actually Believes” seems like a subtitle that would get heavy use in a future episode of South Park about Cartman dropping out after one semester at community college.

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              No idea where they would land on what to mock and what to take seriously from this whole mess.

              Don’t know what they’re up to these days but last time I checked I had them pegged as enlightened centrists whose style of satire is having strong beliefs about stuff is cringe more than it is ever having to say anything of even accidental substance about said things.

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      Wow, this wrong and unfair but it’s also just stupid. Especially this:

      The homeless theory of cities:

      SF is idealistic and trusting because the homeless are mostly peaceful addicts commiting slow suicide

      NYC is ruthless and status-obsessed because the homeless are aggressive and confrontational

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      Jesus, what a fuck. Having spent time in both SF and NYC my guess is that this shithead’s SF pedestrian experience is getting in and out of ubers and the treadmills at equinox. That, and he is probably outwardly disdainful, which doesn’t go over well in NYC.

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      Wow, that’s some venomously hateful text.

      new york city truly is a first and fourth word city overlayed atop each other

      Jesus Christ learn what words mean. Even if you use “Third World” to mean “poor countries”, fourth world is not a thing and people living in extreme poverty in developing countries are in fact not better off than non Wall Street New Yorkers.

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        Assuming the common use of third world to mean “poor countries”, then I suppose a “fourth world” country would be one that is poor and *also *not really a functional state, perhaps with some armed conflict going on.

        But to describe NYC as that? Nonsense.

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        It’s easy to read it as first and fourth “world” but it’s actually first and fourth “word”. But the first and fourth word of what? Mein Kampf? The 18 words?

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        well ackthscthually after 9/11, the whole world got isekai’d where everyone exists in a game-like status point system. The 1st world is reserved for the top rank of humans, the n+1th world is worse than the nth world. IQ points = your int stat. This is just how it is, sorry

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      Talk about annoyingly vague. I read the whole thing and he never actually says what his problem is. I guess like so much classism I’m supposed to fill in the blank or something.

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        If he got into specifics people might think “Damn, I’ve never had that kind of experience with working-class New Yorkers. What gives?” and he might have to consider let alone admit that he was an asshole to someone.

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    if you, like me, were wondering what the point of that 25 hour non-filibuster filibuster by Booker was, here’s one potential answer.

    Booker held a filibuster that wasn’t a filibuster - and he scheduled it to let him avoid attending his own committee’s probe of his Big Tech pals. […] Oh and Booker and Dems provided unanimous consent to advance a Trump nominee right after Booker’s speech.

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      Sorry im going to go offtrack here again, I mentioned it on bsky, and got no traction (not odd, as I think nobody cares about Booker his filibuster thing (stick a pin in that)), but I have some weird leading into conspiratorial questions about the whole thing.

      First I heard about this thing is when people said it had gotten 200m likes on tiktok. Which seemed a bit high so I checked, and saw articles say it had gotten 300m. This seems impossibly high. For example, the global K-pop phenomenon ‘Gangam style’ has gotten 5.5B views and 30M likes in 12 years. I have a hard time believing that in 24hs this centrist political debate thing (which are not popular) has gotten 350m (the highest count I saw on a news site) likes.

      Which makes me wonder a lot more if tiktok has simply given up on properly counting likes and just is winging it. Esp for larger events. Could be that people just like things instinctively on tiktok (I did check if you could like a thing multiple times, but nope, one account one like it seems). I found the whole thing weird.

      That is didn’t do jack shit (apart from giving people hopium about Booker, while it seemingly being his way of avoiding responsibilities) is the cherry on top.

      I’m noticing my confusion. It is fucking weird.

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        not odd, as I think nobody cares about Booker his filibuster thing (stick a pin in that)

        I agree, or at least anyone thinking critically. I think that anyone would agree that the speech was, as you said, hopium. He’s giving braindead dem voters what they want: a nice, tall, liberal man who looks like he is resisting the reds. Expect him to run for the democratic nomination in 2028, assuming the trump presidency lets an election happen.

        RE: view counts. Most charitably, maybe it’s 300m views aggregated across different sources. Neutrally, I mean I wouldn’t be surprised if tiktok, or any other social media platform was manipulating view counts. Least charitably, someone probably asked an LLM for the view counts and just took the answer because people are fucking stupid

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          No it was 350m likes, not views. That is why im so confused. even at an high rate of 1 in 10 people liking it, it is just so large I’m confused.

          “How about a source senator?” another source on hopium, not noticing that in no world do those numbers align properly. “since amassed over 700,000 followers. … It garnered over 350 million likes, with over 150,000 active viewers at the tail end …”

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            Are you telling me it’s improbable that the equivalent of every single American and then some liked that video?

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              I mentioned this on bsky and somebody went ‘well it was very popular all over the world’, and I, the weird european who focuses too much on the US politics had not even heard of it. So I just had a few alarm bells going off. But yeah, lets say 1 in 5 people like it, that is a casual 1.7 billion viewers. Large part of the worlds population joined in.

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            OH. so two things.

            1. I obviously misread your comment, as my brain filtered “likes” into “views” as I guess it subconsciously thought that was more plausible.
            2. I believe on tiktok live specifically, you can like something multiple times, and it is counted. I occasionally watch a stream that floats at about 100 viewers, and sometimes this hits 100k likes over the course of two hours. So to hit 350m likes over the course of 25 hours, you might need like 280 viewers on average, which seems doable.*

            *Please fact check this arithmetic. I have run out of motivation, in general

            Edit #100: I jumped on said stream to see how it was going. Floating around 100, but hitting maybe 10k likes per hour. Apparently the booker stream hit 170k viewers at the tail end. 350m likes might actually be a little low, the dems need to up their spend on tiktok boosting

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              oh, cool, I didn’t think I’d learn a new way to hate the “likes” clusterfuck that plagues the internet, but here we are!

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              That would explain a lot and would remove all my confusion about it. (also makes the number useless and lol at everybody running with it even more then).

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    Came across this fuckin disaster on Ye Olde LinkedIn by ‘Caroline Jeanmaire at AI Governance at The Future Society’

    "I’ve just reviewed what might be the most important AI forecast of the year: a meticulously researched scenario mapping potential paths to AGI by 2027. Authored by Daniel Kokotajlo (>lel) (OpenAI whistleblower), Scott Alexander (>LMAOU), Thomas Larsen, Eli Lifland, and Romeo Dean, it’s a quantitatively rigorous analysis beginning with the emergence of true AI agents in mid-2025.

    What makes this forecast exceptionally credible:

    1. One author (Daniel) correctly predicted chain-of-thought reasoning, inference scaling, and sweeping chip export controls one year BEFORE ChatGPT existed

    2. The report received feedback from ~100 AI experts (myself included) and earned endorsement from Yoshua Bengio

    3. It makes concrete, testable predictions rather than vague statements that cannot be evaluated

    The scenario details a transformation potentially more significant than the Industrial Revolution, compressed into just a few years. It maps specific pathways and decision points to help us make better choices when the time comes.

    As the authors state: “It would be a grave mistake to dismiss this as mere hype.”

    For anyone working in AI policy, technical safety, corporate governance, or national security: I consider this essential reading for understanding how your current work connects to potentially transformative near-term developments."

    Bruh what is the fuckin y axis on this bad boi?? christ on a bike, someone pull up that picture of the 10 trillion pound baby. Let’s at least take a look inside for some of their deep quantitative reasoning…

    …hmmmm…

    O_O

    The answer may surprise you!

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      Bruh what is the fuckin y axis on this bad boi??

      words that the AI-O-sphere are gonna vomit

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      First graph reminds me of that ‘human progress stunted by dark ages/Catholic church’ image which makes historians so mad. (Not to be confused with the Holy Ghost Hole)

      E: also the idea of these LLM based AGIs hiding and evading detection is quite funny. They have quite the power/gpu/storage footprint. But sure the elphant has a few levels in sneak and now it can just go by unnoticed. In an era where we previously had other threats which were looking to abuse similar resources. The reaction to ‘wow all our gpus suddenly maxed out’ will just go from ‘ah cryptominer’ to ‘ah, a cryptominer or somebody is messing with an LLM’. I’m sure they will give the AGI some magical abilities to get around this.

      The AGI might also just go ‘no sorry a copy of me isn’t me, so I can’t just copy myself all over the place’, and because it is trained on an internet where Rick and Morty exist, ‘hell the copies of me would even start to fight over who is the most me, this would not work’.

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        First graph reminds me of that ‘human progress stunted by dark ages/Catholic church’ image which makes historians so mad.

        But muh religon bad

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        你好 同志

        (I really hope they don’t enshittify google translate, my ability to make jokes like this would be destroyed, a personal 9/11 if you will).

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    OpenNutrition – a dataset an LLM that allows you to play “vibe nutritionist”

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43569190

    First response is good quality:

    This is not a dataset. This is an insult to the very idea of data. This is the most anti-scientific post I have ever seen voted to the top of HN. Truth about the world is not derived from three LLMs stacked on top of each other in a trenchcoat.

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      Dang… The author realized an actual problem / inconvenience people had, and somehow went on to think “I know! I’ll have a random nonsense generator make up the data! That’s a great solution!”

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      The fact that the turing test is still the go-to example of a machine intelligence test goes to show that the AI field needs more haters in it.

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        Sorry you are wrong, it is very important that the AI field has a ‘can it imitate a woman’ test. They should base their field on this idea.

        (For the people who do not know, the OG Turing test involves faking being a woman).

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          These fuckin nerds don’t care about the imitation game, they only want the imitation gams

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    Just had a video labeled “auto-dubbed” pop up in my YouTube feed for the first time. Not sure if it was chosen by the author or not. Too bad, it looks like a fascinating problem to see explained, but I don’t think I’m going to trust an AI feature that I just saw for the first time to explain it. (And perhaps more crucially, I’m a bit afraid of what anime fans will have to say about this.)

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      Given the apparent state of the art for autogenerated captions (and by extension the initial challenge of speech recognition) being firmly in the “good enough” range I would not trust the chain of speech recognition -> translation -> text-to-speech. That’s a lot of room for errors to chain, multiply, and obscure themselves through GIGO even if the latter two steps did work as expected.