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allthetimesivedied [they/them, she/her]@hexbear.net to the_dunk_tank@hexbear.netEnglish · 1 year ago

I, a white American person, need help proving to my Chinese husband that the Uygher genocide is real

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I, a white American person, need help proving to my Chinese husband that the Uygher genocide is real

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allthetimesivedied [they/them, she/her]@hexbear.net to the_dunk_tank@hexbear.netEnglish · 1 year ago
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They’re from Portland, Oregon you can’t make this shit up lol.

The Chinese text in the title translates as “brainwashed.” Top kek.

https://www.reddit.com/r/China/s/9SIkZmnr2U

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    Feel bad for the guy finding out his wife is a deranged conspiracy theorist

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        My friend’s ex-wife went down the Youtube conspiracy rabbit hole and is now a Holocaust denier, thinks there are child slave colonies on Mars and stares into the sun because there’s a conspiracy telling us not to do that and she’s going to get to the bottom of it and unlock her super chakra. I think some people are just so thoroughly lacking in critical thinking skills that you can convince them of just about anything if you explain it in an authoritative manner.

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          I had friends try to come at me with con trails, fake moonlanding, bs. I just unloaded about all the real shit going on, why the fuck do you care about this bs, are you that cozy? Last week they mentioned they are basically communist.

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            honestly those old school conspiracies are almost endearing at this point compared to modern anti-vaccine, anti-woke and accusing everyone of pedophilia (except your own politicians) crap

            moon landing one is fun to entertain as a bit.

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              Very true. It was that they seemed to think that this was proof the government was lying. Too which my reaction was, oh really? (pulls out real spookums)

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            fidel-salute

          • kristina [she/her]@hexbear.net
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            next week theyre gonna be fascists or something. brain is pudding

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              To be fair the conspiracy conversation was years ago. But I did have you’re initial reaction.

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          https://youtube.com/shorts/pAJrRalCSR0

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            I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

            • yewtu.be
            • inv.nadeko.net
            • yt.artemislena.eu
            • piped.video
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          I dunno. I think life would be more fun if I thought I was one really good meditation session away from getting superpowers

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            She wanted him to pay $2500 for a Reiki healing class where you just hover your hands over people and channel good vibes into them.

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              pathetic

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        My ex wife went from being a radlib, to working for conspiracy theorist Jason Bermis.

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          My ex-sister-in-law went from radlib to posting everyday about child trafficking from Wayfair

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            I have a family member who does the “vaxxed?” Thing unironically.

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              My mom deeper-sadness

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        First reaction was that she didn’t believe famous people are real, which is a much more fun thing to believe

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          They are just paid actors

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            Al Pacino just pretended to be the devil. For money.

            And don’t even get me started on Tim Curry.

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          if stars don’t real, then what is Ben Affleck?

          checkmate, atheists.

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            Disproving the anti-star conspiracy theory forcing your dumb friend to read every name on the Hollywood Walk of Fame

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      • allthetimesivedied [they/them, she/her]@hexbear.netOP
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        My ex-friend swallows Ukraine propaganda.

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        The starts aren’t real but you aren’t supposed to talk about it. They might hear you and get angry

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      Comes with the risk of marrying a white American, vast majority of them are politically deranged and disconnected from reality

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        I’m wondering how many of these people were “spiritual” before 'cause that’s a self-identifier that indicates a mark like these 99% of the time.

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        In my experience it’s not exactly political derangement, but rather the arrogance of thinking they have the freest media and know better than anyone else.

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          This is the truth. Americans used to say shit like “I get my news from fox and CNN so therefore I am objective.”

          brainworms combined with brainworms to create centrist

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            Plato was a time Traveller and his allegory of the cave was him trying to explain Americans ti ancient Greeks

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              At this point I’d genuinely believe that is the truth.

              Plato: “Lights come out of a box and make shapes and the people stare at it.”

              Other Greeks: “like fire making shadows?”

              Plato, exhausted, going home: “yeah, sure, whatever helps you get it.”

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                Plato: “So anyway, the people who stare at these boxes are stupid assholes but you can never convince them that they’re wrong.”

                Other Greeks: Frantic note taking

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      • SkingradGuard [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        Western libs in general.

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    Top comment:

    Edit: I just want to add that I don’t think this is an issue that needs to ruin a marriage. In the US, there are plenty of couples who have healthy marriages but one is a republican and the other is democrat with very different outlooks on things. They make it work by given each other freedom it express their beliefs outside of their home while focusing on the things they have in common at home.

    That’s how you know these liberals are unserious bozos. If China was actually committing a genocide and your husband was denying it, that should be a dealbreaker. That would make him a fascist and worse. But, y’know, they don’t really care about that, it’s just about performing unquestioning loyalty to the empire.

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      Look some people support the genocide over there and some people support the genocide over here, there’s no reason we can’t all get along!

      Except for those freaks on the left who don’t want any genocide at all, bunch of extremists.

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      there are definitely marriages where one person believes in forced pregnancy and the other believes the mixing of the races isn’t a bad thing, and they mostly consist of incredible physical and psychological abuse.

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    spoiler alert:

    there is no scholarly work about the subject because there is no subject

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      scholarly work

      zenz

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        Zyklon Zenz strikes again!

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    … his intransigence related to the real facts of Xinjiang may eventually lead to our divorce.

    Imagine getting a divorce over propaganda lmayo

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      Getting divorced because you believe Adrian Zenz more than your husband

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      It’s not about intransigence or propaganda, it’s about control. She wants her husband to believe her just because she’s saying it and is thinking about leaving him if he doesn’t

      Real abuser shit.

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        How is that abuse lol. That’s just incompatibility. If she’s beating him or coercing him like holding his visa unless he converts to being a patriot, that’s abuse. But if you tell someone “I can’t be with you if you don’t agree on these fundamental truths” (whether it’s wrong or not), that’s just basic relationship management.

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          The idea is that her belief in the fake genocide isn’t sincere, but it’s more like a “test”, if you love me you will agree with whatever I say or believe. That’s emotional abuse.

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            “Test” is a really good way of putting it. Just the whole vibe she’s giving out isn’t one of trying to figure out her husband’s perspective, it’s a my way or the highway style ultimatum.

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          it’s abuse because there are clear racial undertones to her treatment of her husband. calling your husband brainwashed bc he doesn’t agree with what you think about the country he’s actually from is really weird. like who is this lady? she’s demanding “academic sources” that aren’t from China but i doubt she’s sourcing her claims from anywhere that fits those standards.

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          The Cardassians weren’t torturing Picard when they tried to get him to say that there were three lights instead of four, they were just doing basic relationship management.

          Joking aside, I think it’s really fucking important whether or not the “fundamental truths” are true or not. “I’m divorcing you if you keep saying the Earth is round” and “I’m divorcing you if you keep saying that the Earth is flat” are not equivalent statements.

          Plus, the Redditor is approaching this from the angle that her husband is brainwashed and never stops to consider that they might be wrong about something, especially a topic where their husband might have greater familiarity. They’re being unreasonable and threatening divorce unless husband acquiesces. In my book that’s emotional abuse.

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      He’d dodge a bullet with that honestly

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    I’ll read any scholarly work, as long as it’s US propaganda

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      i mean sadly that’s it, shit’s donezo

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    The thing that kills me with these Uygher genocide fabricators is 9-outta-10 how Islamophobic they are in any other context

    These are motherfuckers who will sit there praising the war on terror which HAS KILLED millions of Muslims while they shed crocodile tears for imaginary massacres

    They’re cynical scum all of them

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      It’s like how republicans are suddenly supper concerned about lgbtq rights if it means they get to be Islamophobic or how they were suddenly all really concerned about the integrity of women’s sports records when it meant they had plausible deniability to be openly transphobic.

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      Actually Trump will do more genocides please vote smuglord

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      I either don’t get out much or live in a nicer part of that world because I haven’t heard one person I interact with offer any type of praise for the war on terror ever. Most of us just keep our heads down and shuffle our feet through the struggle of artificial scarcity imposed on us by our overlords.

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    liberalism I genuinely believe a genocide is happening and my contribution to stopping it is divorcing my husband

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    this time on; White Westerner ruins their own relationship by not listening to their partner who is from the place in question, and has a far more intimate understanding of the situation and refuses to accept direct sources because of their own political bias.

    seems to me the whitey did the liberal thing, wherein they marry someone from a culture they deem lesser so they can “rescue” them from it. Bro went to FU and Yale, if anyone would understand direct sources and intellectual honesty, it’s them.

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      Them being from Portland, Oregon is super on the nose here.

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      “How can I brag that he’s not like the other <slur>s if he thinks like all the other <slur>s?!”

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    I (Chinese) just went on a couple dates with a white girl and we seem to hit it off but this is actually a concern I have.

    She’s not Zionist, pro-LGBT and has kind of shaken off the conservative Christian upbringing but being in Australia and surrounded by Australian media, and has concerns about China.

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      If she’s dating you and seems to have an open mind then there’s hope. My wife was convinced by media in her country that she’d get hate crimed the minute she stepped off the plane in China. We went for a week and she had a wonderful time and keeps talking about wanting to visit again.

      Sometimes the best way to disprove a lie is first hand exposure to the truth.

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        But what if she only likes me because I’m a hot piece of ass? Not just a snacc, but a succulent Chinese meal?

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          Were you put on a lazy Susan on a large spinning table to be shared with her family? If not, then not a full Chinese meal.

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            We’re in the country, a Chinese meal is a “special fried rice” with prawn chips

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              My condolences.

              Prawn chips do rock tho.

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          Unfortunately, I see a police car in her immediate future.

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      I wouldn’t worry about it. I would talk to her about it and at least show very basic things about China. (High speed rail, big buildings, people generally being happy). If she’s a normal human being her opinions will change overtime.

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      You’re worrying about the wrong thing. People like OP don’t exist in real life. If they thought the genocide was real they’re dumb enough to fall for 100 other blood libels and wouldn’t have dated you in the first place. What you need to worry about are women who think the genocide is real and agree with it.

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      Women often confuse these things for intelligent

      The most sexist thing I’ve read all week

      Edit: I didn’t read the rest of the comment. Possible it gets more sexist

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        You were right! It does!

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        Apart from it being a blatantly sexist statement it’s double illogical because men do this too, arguably more than women, they even confuse the accumulation of wealth with intelligence.

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      That compelled me to check out their account. It’s so bad. 100% map game brained, and think that the real world follows the same rule as crusader kings. No genocide in Palestine, it’s more like putting down a prison riot, and if the Palestinians don’t like it they should move. Chinese women are HOT, china bad.

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      holy fuck lmao the absolute exemplar of clueless

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      What a tedious writing style

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        very much reads like a dumb person trying to appear smart

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        It fully reads like chatGPT. Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if it was a bot.

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      That has to be a bit

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      I’m in awe. He’s berating someone he will never know for not being open to the idea he’s being wrong. He foreshadows and then mentions his own dating struggles.

      It makes me bow my head in thankfulness that I became a leftist and was spared a reverence for intelligence.

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      Guarantee this person is in denial about the actual and very well documented ongoing genocide in Palestine. OP too, for that matter.

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      lmao

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      That’s the most reddit comment ive seen in some time. cringe

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    OK how about the official United Nations report? The one they spent months on and libs thought it was gonna blow the lid off the thing, and instead the UN (Michele Bachelet and her team, specifically) confirmed there isn’t a genocide and was only able to offer some mild criticism of China (which frankly, to me read like “well we can’t just not criticize them for anything, so here’s some ticky tack stuff”).

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        Did they really?

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    He claims they have never lost a war

    She’s got him there. They lost Vietnam.

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      Evwryone loses Viet Nam. And Afghanistan. They’ve got plot armour. In 200,000 years, when humanity is gone, the planet is solely populated by uplifted mantises and a life form that evolved from Shamrock Shake residue, the mantis capitals will be HCMC and Kabul.

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        genuinely one of the better visions of the future i’ve heard recently

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      It’s unlikely that the average American even knows that china fought Vietnam shortly after the US lost, or that it was Vietnamese communists who stopped Pol Pot’s genocide. I’m 90% sure what they’re thinking is that China lost the civil war because the KMT retreated to Taiwan lol

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    I will not read the comments because I prefer my headcanon that they were all just not-immune-to-propaganda

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        Everyone walking in Xinjiang are just undercover Han policemen. All the Uyghurs were executed in 2008

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      I wouldnt call the comments good…fair bit of libs. There is some push back as well though.

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        for reddit its incredible

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    Hope he finds someone better to spend the rest of his life with mao-wave

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    Oh my god. This post is too much. It’s great, I love it. “I want evidence but only the kind that proves me right, thanks”. Yanks are something else

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