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InevitableSwing [none/use name]@hexbear.net to news@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 years ago

A man set himself on fire outside Trump's NYC courthouse. He was badly burned and taken away from the scene on a stretcher. It's not known if this was related to the trial.

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A man set himself on fire outside Trump's NYC courthouse. He was badly burned and taken away from the scene on a stretcher. It's not known if this was related to the trial.

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  • FungiDebord [none/use name]@hexbear.netBanned
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    Removed by mod

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      My man was cooking but then he passed out before he could take it out the oven on time.

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      Yeah, I read theory lenin-crush-capitalism

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    here’s how burny can still win

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      Holy shit data-laughing

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    • abc [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      And here I’ve been, like Lisa Simpson, desperately trying to get friends, family, and the public to believe the proof of a totalitarian con I’m trying to show them, and they’ve turned away with hostility, apathy, disbelief, and partisanship.

      lmao what watching The Simpsons and being like yiiking-out ‘I’m just like Lisa’ does to a mfer???

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        As it turns out, dozens of the writers of The Simpsons went to Harvard. So I asked myself the question: If The Simpsons served the interests of organized crime, how would it do so?

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          say-the-line-bart-1

          say-the-line-bart-2 As it turns out, dozens of the writers of The Itchy & Scratchy Show went to Harvard. So I asked myself the question: If The Itchy & Scratchy Show served the interests of organized crime, how would it do so?

        • Llituro [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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          me to way too many people who have supposedly been educated: funny-clown-hammer counterfactuals aren’t true, stop making shit up that is logically vacuous.

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      our government is a secret kleptocracy

      It’s not even that secret.

      • Des [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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        the one case where we don’t do the Leftist Wall of Text

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          We do, it’s just in citations and sources, instead of all on the face.

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            Parenti footnote hours

            • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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              Entire chapters of “Capital” looming in behind

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      The Simpsons exists to brainwash us

      • Findom_DeLuise [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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        lenin-crush-capitalism

      • WeedReference420 [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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        Very tempted to make this my new profile pic but I feel like the weed skull is more on brand

    • InevitableSwing [none/use name]@hexbear.netOP
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      If that’s real - it’s just a matter of time before it gets taken down so - https://archive.ph/Hf2c9

      • DoiDoi [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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        • InevitableSwing [none/use name]@hexbear.netOP
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          It’s so weird. The Substack link is still working. At this point I have to wonder if the site knows about the link but isn’t taking it down because they want the traffic and the attention. If I’m right - they’ll claim there was an “error”.

          -–

          Edit

          I was right. They are intentionally leaving the post up plus there’s this…

          Commenting has been turned off for this post

          • DoiDoi [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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            • Nakoichi [they/them]@hexbear.netBanned
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              This is all actually just an elaborate ploy by substack!

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            They have blocked all the comments across their posts sometime within the past hour

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        Yeah, there’s already a couple links to his Instagram that have been deleted.

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      The Simpsons exists to brainwash us

      Are we sure this isn’t a Cumtown fan doing a very dedicated bit?

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      This is mental illness

      • Sickos [they/them, it/its]@hexbear.net
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        I would write that off more to lack of media literacy

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    He was (apparently) a Redditor

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      And a stupidpol poster on top of that. Suddenly I can see why his manifesto is so rambling and all over the place with no truely substantive theory behind it.

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      He posted in r/TrueAnon as well but the mods there had the good sense to ban him

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        This guy could’ve really improved his life if he just followed the Belden program instead of… whatever he was doing. One must be careful not to gumshoe too close to the sun.

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          Brace hastily adding “do not self-immolate” to the Rules For Life

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      • the_itsb [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        Reddit took it down, but luckily someone archived it yesterday 🤔

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      stupidpol lmfao

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      “coup radley” is a pretty good name

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    I was not expecting this today, huh weird. Obligatory: do not kill yourself, kill the people who make your life bad. They have names and addresses and bleed red blood.

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      Utah Phillips said it best. The world isn’t dying, it’s being murdered, and the people killing it have names and addresses.

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        One of the best to ever do it!

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      Guy was right outside the courthouse too…

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    [T]he U.S. is a ‘secret kleptocracy’: they pretend it’s a democracy, but both parties are controlled by financial criminals whose only goal is to bleed us dry. Media plays a central role in the con: No matter our interests or political alignments, we are all flooded with messaging designed to divide the public and make us bitter, angry, apathetic, anxious, helpless, and hopeless as they intentionally make our lives worse.

    …[W]e are effectively in history’s largest doomsday cult, and I’ve been watching them poor Flavor Aid the last 9 months: In order to mask the theft of trillions of dollars via cryptocurrency, our government is going to kick off one hell of a false flag attack to keep us paralyzed with fear and confusion while they orchestrate a fascist coup.

    Oh yeah he was totally off his rocker. These are the propaganda-filled ramblings of an unwell mind. For sure.

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      Bad-faith actors are heavily manipulating the discourse across countless subreddits in order to promote divisive, partisan content, convince us we’re helpless to do anything about our crumbling society, sow bullshit conspiracy theories, and make sure you don’t find out that they’re supervillains.

      Just utter nonsense

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        Okay I have to walk back a bit, which is hard with my foot firmly planted in my mouth:

        The left shouts “All Cops Are Bastards,” which ensures they’ll be hated by the police and the public (and flies in the face of leftist theory).

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          Alright, I’ve read several of his posts, and while I don’t agree with all of the conclusions or reasoning, I’m definitely not writing this dude off as a nutjob. I’m could see myself making a lot of these connections given enough time and cannabis.

          Another wordsmith put it best: He a little confused but he got the spirit.

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            Just at a glance, this is really similar in outline to a series of posts made on the Trueanon subreddit approx 1 year ago’

            https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueAnon/search/?q=ponzi+papers

            oh fuck it WAS the OP

            https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueAnon/comments/1c86vtr/looks_like_the_guy_who_self_immolated_at_the/

            • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]@hexbear.net
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              This is also him on a different account about a month ago

              https://www.reddit.com/r/stupidpol/comments/1bjfk3i/the_true_history_of_the_world_haunted_carnival/

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                Dude is this the real BMF? Did our bugloaf boy finally reveal himself to the world???

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      That archive site is banned for cp in my country, the same country who blocked half of Cloudflare just because some people were streaming football matches💀

      Off-topic but still wtf

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    He was a /r/trueanon and /r/stupidpol poster. His posts go back at least 6 months.

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      This is his first in a series of posts on the trueanon sub a year ago

      https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueAnon/comments/12okgqv/the_ponzi_papers_part_i_welcome_to_the_rabbit_hole/

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        omg i remember this post it was this guy??

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          Yeah, the stuff he posted on the blog that’s confirmed to be his was basically identical to what he posted on the TA sub

          I remember seeing that post back then too

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      archive of his reddit posts here. his posts go back to 2011

      https://samac.io/?author=mrsamsonite

    • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]@hexbear.net
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      no fucking way

    • LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      how was this found out? did he post a manifesto or something?

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        Yes. https://theponzipapers.substack.com/p/i-have-set-myself-on-fire-outside?r=146gb&utm_medium=ios&triedRedirect=true

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          Unhinged, sad.

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            RIP to a real one

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              Yeah I feel bad for them, dude clearly needed help. Like often that is said when these acts of protest occur to delegitimize them, but in this instance I feel like it applies

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      Probably saw Aaron Buchnell and thought “damn Trump is just as oppressed as Palestine is” like a total kulak moron.

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        He threw pamphlets in the air, but somehow the NYT only has access to the proper nouns in those pamphlets.

        Some of the pamphlets referenced former President George W. Bush, former Vice President Al Gore and the lawyer David Boies, who represented Mr. Gore in the 2000 presidential election recount.

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          The Internet is saying that this person self immolated to protest against crypto currency.

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            Aren’t GPUs already doing that for him?

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              the GPUs are in support of cryptocurrency

          • JohnBrownNote [comrade/them, des/pair]@hexbear.netBanned
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            picard

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        Doesn’t look like it:

        This extreme act of protest is to draw attention to an urgent and important discovery:

        We are victims of a totalitarian con, and our own government (along with many of their allies) is about to hit us with an apocalyptic fascist world coup.

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          hmm I was wrong then

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    Some people are really obsessed with this Trump eh?

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      Looks like it really didn’t have a ton to do with Trump, and more to do with guaranteed cameras and attention

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    Let him cook

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      jesse-wtf Jesse… We have to cook

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    Holy shit it was the Rob Lowe 1988 DNC sex blackmail r/trueanon poster

    https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueAnon/s/p0XxbcbSaj

    • Sickos [they/them, it/its]@hexbear.net
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      At this rate we’re gonna find out that it’s time to start a BMF hospital fund

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      Someone over there put up some links to a couple of his old posts and I remember reading them when they were originally made

      Feels bizarre

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    Pretty good manifesto. I hope the guy survives and heals and is okay and stuff. It’s fucked what trying to make sense of this reality does to a motherfucker.

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      I hope the guy survives and heals and is okay and stuff

      he’s extremely dead

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        Ah, well, never the less
        At least he’s not suffering I suppose. His substack is cognitohazardously compelling reading. Reading “ponzi” as “capitalist” in his Titan implosion conspiracy article makes it surprisingly lucid. Might fuck around and become a submarine truther.

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          He seems weirdly hyper fixated on crypto and Ponzi schemes.

          I don’t think he is using “ponzi scheme” as an analogy here. I think he literally thinks gross inequality is a product of Ponzi schemes.

          Like, he views this as somehow a hack in the game rather than being literally what the game is.

          And he views the elites as a shadowy cabal rather than an economic class with aligned self-interest.

          I like a good conspiracy theory and sure there are indeed some cabals with outsized power and even some shady Epstein-Clinton shit and the weird cult of creepy transfuturist investment banker / child sex ring that built around MIT etc there’s a lot of wild shit that I think is basically true but I think it betrays him as fundamentally believing that the game should be fair if only we make everyone play by the rules rather than him believing the rules of the game themselves need to change.

          Which makes him a lib who went down the trueanon rabbit hole without ever coming to understand the deep state and elite power structures as a product of class loyalty more than anything else.

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            Which makes him a lib who went down the trueanon rabbit hole without ever coming to understand the deep state and elite power structures as a product of class loyalty more than anything else.

            More or less agree. Even a rudimentary understanding of Marxism should provide the “missing puzzle piece” for why everything is fucked and why every enterprise is engaged in a race to the bottom.

            I will say I noticed that even through his lens, he recognises the inherent contradiction in operating economies and societies on infinite growth models in a finite planet. This obviously ties in to his ponzi scheme fixation as you noted.

            He seems weirdly hyper fixated on crypto and Ponzi schemes.

            I noticed he mentioned in one article being ‘in IT’ or similar. From my own techbro exposure to a highly venture capital involved environment, startups and shit like that, I can only speak for my own experience but it became literally unbearably obvious that I was spending my time building vaporware for sales and investor pitches rather than engineering actual solutions. Without a more comprehensive understanding of capitalism and economics, the Ponzi Scam would look like a pretty good ‘best fit’ model for understanding the fraudulent machinations of capitalists and capitalism more broadly. So yeah, I agree he does likely mean it in a literal sense, but from the perspective of a reformist liberal this would be a coherent (even accurate?) way of understanding why things are unraveling the way they are in late stage capitalism.

            He does seem at one point at least to identify the entirety of capitalism as having effectively become a ponzi scheme. So his criticisms do seem to focus at times on the correct target, so to speak.

            Also worth noting that he calls for revolution and an overthrow of the US government, to be replaced with “a government that serves all.” I interpreted this in context as being seen as necessary at least in part to decouple capitalism and its interests from the system of government. This sticks out to me (along with more overt uses of the label ‘fascism’) as it reminds me of definitions I have read that identify the entanglement of capital and state as being critical parts of fascism. Some sort of revolutionary reformist type vibe.

            It’s just a shame he lacked the tools Marxism would have provided to not get so caught in the weeds and spooks. He was right there in the belly of the beast and ready to die for his cause. che-cigar

            The crypto fixation on the other hand, sheit. I’ve already written enough on this guy for now. RIP to a courageous poster regardless.

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        I’m seeing reports that he survived and is in critical condition, do you have a source he’s dead?

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          Dead since then

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    this dude would be alive today if he’d ever read a single book

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    Already seeing alt-righters online use this to drum up a new panic about The Commies. Real unfortunate. I feel bad for the guy, I hope he recovers and gets some help.

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      alt-righters

      The right has been all the same for years now. I haven’t used alt-right in 7 years - since about a week after Charlottesville. I call everything on the right - right-wingers or right-wing.

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        I think alt-right is a pretty useless and outdated term, and I whenever I hear it I usually assume the person using it must’ve not paid attention to politics after the last election cycle. But there is a small sliver of truth that the American right has a militant wing and a political wing, with the militant wing having merged existing elements of white supremacist gangs and police (but I repeat myself) with newly radicalized boogaloo boys, proud boys, groypers, atomwaffen, etc. The political wing maintains loose coupling with the militant wing (and of course, the FBI manipulates individual groups to hit targets they desire) to keep plausible deniability.

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        • since about a week after Charlottesville

        Yeah the whole western internet-right defending the nazis at that event really showed me how little distinction there is between all of them. They’re all evil, self-righteous fascists when it comes down to it. And libs will make excuses for the fascists as usual.

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          And libs will make excuses for the fascists as usual.

          When Charlottesville I was a new leftist. I wondered if Trump’s election warped my thinking so that my interest in leftism was temporary and would wither away. But Charlottesville made me be 100% certain I had left liberalism behind. Out of curiosity - I googled some GOP pols to see what they said. They made all the appropriate comments about racism, Nazis, and violence having no place in American life. I knew they didn’t mean it but at least they said it.

          What made me want to projectile vomit surprised me. It was a tweet by Obama - Mr. Liberalism himself. I soon learned it was the most liked tweet ever. It hit all the right notes in a picture perfect manner. In an oblique way it mentioned hate, racism, more importantly it mentioned love, it name-checked Nelson Mandela, and Obama inserted himself into all that with a photo of himself.

          “No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin or his background or his religion.”

          [a photo of Obama with kids]

          “People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love For love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite.” - Nelson Mandela

          https://nitter.poast.org/BarackObama/status/896523232098078720

          Wiki

          This tweet was the first of three, by former U.S. president Barack Obama, quoting a passage from Nelson Mandela’s autobiography, Long Walk to Freedom, in response to the 2017 Charlottesville attack. The accompanying picture, taken in 2011 by former White House photographer Pete Souza, shows Obama visiting a day care center in Bethesda, Maryland.

          Four days later, Twitter publicly confirmed that it had become the most-liked tweet on the platform ever, with over 3.3 million likes at the time of announcement. The tweet surpassed previous record holder Ariana Grande’s Manchester tweet on August 15, 2017, when it reached 2.7 million likes three days after being posted.

          In my bones - deep in my bones - I knew that liberals would never actually do anything about fascism. Instead they’d give speeches as a pantomime of action and their base would eat it up.

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            That’s funny that was about the same time the switch flipped for me too. I was purging reactionary shit from my youtube feed (I was big into breadtube stuff, contrapoints, philosophy tube, some more news etc) and I went to bed watching some video essay.

            When I awoke, autoplay had served up a chapo traphouse episode in my feed and I had never heard them before and I wasn’t sure if they were chuds or leftists but I was too lazy to get up and too compelled to keep listening to them shit on liberals in a compelling manner when I heard this

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              Wow I think that might have also been from the first episode of chapo I listened to, after being drawn into/r/cth and wondering what the podcast was about

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              I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

              • yewtu.be
              • inv.nadeko.net
              • yt.artemislena.eu
              • piped.video
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    I literally can’t imagine burning myself to death unless I had no idea how fucking horrific of a death it would be. One of the most agonizing ways to die

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      All due respect to Thích Quảng Đức, may his eternal compassion endure.

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        On an article about this guy there was a mention that 150 Tibetan Buddhists have immolated themselves in the past 15 years because China doesn’t recognise their country dean-frown

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