Im gonna come out and say it. There are to many beanis posts

Please ban animated avatar images. They drive me fucking nuts. Its so so obnoxious. Every post that has one is inherently annoying and makes me dislike the accounts/people associated with them. Its so rude.

I don’t think this is what you’re asking, but the site changes font almost every time I log in. Sometimes it’s a thicker font than usual and when that happens the site doesn’t seem to work properly, for instance generally can’t access my messages when that happens. There doesn’t seem to be any particular rhyme or reason as to when this happens but it happens frequently.

Was making an official mod statement about the correct way to post about luigi really necessary?

It’s also not entirely clear to me if posting about Luigi is still banned on c/cth or not

I think y’all are way too comfortable with banning a comrade in otherwise good standing from the site for all time based on a single day’s series of interactions where they said something wrong or got heated or defensive. I think the same goes for removing comments or temp bans when someone says something a particular mod disagrees with.

We all have bad days, we all make mistakes, we all have bad takes, and not everything requires mod action.

The attitude I see mods repeatedly voice to justify banning a comrade for all time is that they can just make an alt so w/e. Can you imagine a community you get significant psychic peace from all telling you they never want to see or talk to you ever again and your first response is to go buy a disguise so you can go join the group again?

(I also think requiring temp bans to post in c/selfcrit is psychotic. Being banned or even just being flamed on the boards is humiliating enough, and people learn from those experiences. Forcing the users to engage in this humiliating public process feels like an abuse of power.)

I just wish y’all were more comfortable doing nothing sometimes.

The site has been enveloped in multiple debacles for multiple months now and I found the atmosphere to be terrible, I don’t know why exactly this was the case so I can’t comment on specifics. I find it concerning how it got so bad though. Tc69 moderated in a manner that a lot of the userbase felt inappropriate and she consequently deleted her account. Then afterwards a different admin banned multiple users for one upvote and another admin explicitly said they were against this. Why did this happen, what was achieved? This can be interpreted as at least one admin having contempt or animosity towards the userbase.

For a while it also seemed like there was a disconnect in how most users approach the site versus how some users on the mod/admin team view it. The impression I’ve gotten is that most people use this place as a lighthearted place to socialize free of the worst right wing radiation that permeates society and additionally to essentially commiserate. I don’t think most users come here with an abundance of energy and an overdrive to learn unfortunately.

What’s the current status of moderation rule 6?

If the user comes back under a new account and continues to make trouble, they will be banned.

From my reading, banned users are explicitly allowed back if they don’t repeat the behavior (and I know this was definitely the policy in the early days). Catradora_Stalininsm was site-banned for “sustained anti-veganism after repeated warnings and a previous ban” (I can’t find the previous ban, maybe another account?), was unbanned, was banned again for “Violating the terms of previous unbanning (ie. not engaging in antivegan argumentation)”

From rule 7, it seems like this should be permanent:

Moderators may choose at their discretion to un-ban the user if it was a first offense and they offer the offended party a genuine apology.

Instead she came back as HelltakerHomosexual. She was banned for ban evasion, then unbanned, so admins knew who she was. Also Lyudmilla is all but explicit about it here. She had 14 comments removed for hostility, and multiple for anti-veganism, before getting site banned again.

So would she be welcome back again? Would a ban for “ban evasion” get reversed again?

It’s probably a similar situation for dsplayer -> melina -> beluga -> waterbottle (actually banned for ban evasion) but I’m not going to dig through the modlog for that right now.

I actually have separate suggestion (and one i’m absolutely guilty off not doing i realized), mainly to posts to gossip/cth, but i’ll make it here to maybe get some feedback: if one posts dipshittery from twitter with editorialized title (expressing general frustration etc), one should put in the body of the post some small searchable tag or description, because searching posts is a pain in the ass (guess how i arrived at suggestion).

But, i would like to know in general how search works? if i put three words in, do i get a match on post containing all three words or is it fuzzier? (does it have proximity score of three words closeness and ranks results accordingly, or is it match/non-match on three words and the results are arranged randomly?)

(Or maybe we should strive to helpful policy of image descriptions to help people using text to speech?) definitely don’t think it should be 100% or immediately enforced though, but nice thing to strive for

I just want more empathy.

Reading through this thread I see a lot of people with a lot of problems in their lives who use this site at least in part as an emotional safety blanket, who really need it to stay that way.

What this functionally means is that drama is kept to a minimum, and that behaviour where some people take a situation from 0-100 instead of talking, assuming good faith and coming to understanding is discouraged or actively fought as it’s a corrosive behaviour that I do not think has ever led to anything good on this site ever.

Lastly I’ve already mentioned, but vibes-based moderation must be avoided such that a moderation action can be described to neurodiverse members of the site in an explicitly understandable and non-vague way so that person can actionably change that behaviour.

• Won’t rehash what other people said, but yeah moderation needs to be impartial and consistent. I know coming up with procedure’s just encourages trolls to “game the system”, but purely vibes-based mod action without pointing out what was done wrong in detail or recourse to appeal isn’t working out (arguably it’s giving an opening to wrecker’s to take advantage of, because they can impersonate user’s/mod voices and exacerbate any perception of preferential treatment which in turn sours sentiment further… which is what I suspect happened)

• I think trying to replicate the success of the zero-tolerance policy wrt transphobia with misogyny and racism might have been a mistake- our community was much better equipped to combat that particular -ism, probably due to its make-up. Differentiating micro-aggressions from outright bigotry seems important but was overlooked, and giving zero room for rehabilitation and education just seems to have cooled discourse and created a cycle that encourages weaponizing our identities to bludgeon other people with. I’m glad that right now we’re encouraging giving the benefit of the doubt to each other.

• Just an observation, but maybe we have to shed the dirtbag leftist irony poisoning that characterized r/Chapo, cos most of you seem half my age now and are waaaaaaay too sincere and make me feel really really old

• Personally, I had come to the conclusion a while ago that material conditions would dictate how the website is used, so I wasn’t ever really worried about whether the website was serious business or silly fun, because quite frankly that question is immaterial. However, I do think that we’re gonna have to decide what we want to prioritize as a community and start building out the infrastructure for what comes next; if we’re the posting vanguard we’re gonna need better outreach tools and agitprop, if we’re the life boat at the end of the world and the last safe space we’re going to need better mod tools and basic stuff like wiki’s, and procedure’s to ensure the safety of people using mutual aid, etc. Or maybe we decide to be something else entirely. But we can have that conversation a little later, I think.

Edit: Oh one point I kinda forgot about- the mega-threadification of hexbear means that we can’t really assume a uniform site culture anymore. I know we’ve done this to give more people safe spaces but imo it’s gotten kinda cliquey and I kinda feel like we’re 2 shitposts from (completely arbitrary and made up example) the News Mega launching a civil war against Badposting or something. Idk if it’s actually a problem or not tho

I would love to have more micro-transactions, possibly a subscription service named Hexbear Red that would give access to all emojis.

Can we also have some AI driven features to make posting more efficient and productive?

Another good idea would be to partner with businesses to present exiting new products and services to the Hexbear community!

No, seriously, I’m quite happy with the site as it is. People here are much kinder and a lot more interesting than anywhere else on the internet. Whatever the mods are doing, in general the end result is really good.

The bans and subsequent loss of @[email protected] @[email protected] and @[email protected] (dont recall if fanon was banned, but I haven’t seen them around) were bullshit and the mentality that lead to them really needs to be dropped. I also haven’t seen @[email protected] or @[email protected] around for a long while. That sucks.

We all have petty grievances, but I really wish those who think they are responsible enough to moderate a community would be responsible enough to leave their private issues at the door.

I’m going to vent about site culture for a moment, feel free to ignore.

I think there is a contradiction in the hexbear culture, where we talk about being comrades, but users dont bother offering some grace to users when they accidentally say something offensive. Conversely, users aren’t humble and don’t question their own chauvinism until they get temp banned then they finally posting on c/selfcrit. Obviously, the latter scenario is worse (JUST ACCEPT THAT YOU WERE OFFENSIVE AND APOLOGIZE, DAMN!) but the former is still corrosive to the site experience and it upsets me especially when mods do it. Like, either be chill or ban, set a good example.

I don’t think this is something admins can fix, necessarily, but it makes this place feel like Reddit and it pisses me off sometimes. God damn, most of the time even if I want to fight about something I give up halfway through typing my diatribe, how people can get through several comments of being in the wrong/being an asshole to a supposed ‘comrade’ without taking a breath and reassessing what has been said, I will never understand.

Edit: Genuinely, I think the song How to Save a Life by The Frey (CW: the song is about an intervention) is a decent guide of what I mean by handling call outs with grace.

这个社区应该只讲中文。 😏

Actual problem is site is very slow now. I do not know why. It is a recent problem.

I wish we had more software people to add little things to the site