Wanna join the losing team right before the finals?
You’re getting the death sentence in China if you’re caught for this. No doubt about it.
Maybe you’ll be offered either death sentence or double agent (closely monitored).
Anyway the applications for this thing are going to be absolutely filled with loyal CPC agents. If I were China I would send my spies to apply as spies for the Americans.
In USA you get the presidency for this.
You’re getting the death sentence in China if you’re caught for this. No doubt about it.
Could this be an attempt to make up some “human rights abuses” claims about China? I feel like it’s too absurd to actually work for spying, but maybe it is more for manufacturing consent.
I think you nailed it. If they can get just one person to take the bait and that person ends up getting caught and punished for it, they feed the story to the media framing it like “Authoritarian China cracks down on innocents who just love democracy and freedom (we totally didn’t pay them)”.
You’re getting the death sentence in China if you’re caught for this. No doubt about it.
Please produce the law in China in regards to this showing you will be killed or some examples of it happening. Don’t just do the liberal thing where you assume “China authoritarian and kills everybody” thing. Let’s be better than that on a leftist website, jfc.
between 2010 and 2012, the PRC rounded up and killed/imprisoned the majority of cia assets in China as a result of a security breach
this was absolutely the correct response, you can’t have spies from a hostile foreign government wandering around
from a morality perspective it is neutral at worst, spies and intelligence assets are always fair gameYou’re doing the liberal thing where you assume any sort of necessary action in the real world which wouldn’t happen in a utopia must be evil authoritarianism if China/ other socialist country is doing it.
Giving state secrets to a foreign adversary is 110% a capital punishment in China.
This is not propaganda. I don’t see why you think literal actual treason wouldn’t hold the death penalty in a country that holds the death penalty for drugs crimes and murders.
Depending on city this is implemented by either shooting or injection. Fairly mixed implementations across the country as many cities have no injection facility. The most recent two mass murderers that attacked schoolchildren for example were both shot.
Is it not pretty standard in most countries for literal foreign intelligence spies to be executed for treason and espionage? It’s not like Awoo is singling China out as “those dastardly Asians” in the usual liberal way, just acknowledging that China doesn’t treat CIA moles with kid gloves, nor should they.
Also, I’m not going to go digging around right now for non-western sources on this, but isn’t it well known that China did execute a number of US spies a few years ago? It’s been discussed here before.
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It would be a shame if they got 100 applications filled with pictures of a pig shitting on its balls
This is theatre for American libs to make them think China must be bad if the poor chinese wanna spy and the CIA is getting responses to this.
That could be it actually, it could just be a “trust the plan, patriots are in control” sort of thing, they are bragging about the number of views the videos have gotten after all.
I think the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs is having a press conference around 6 hours from now. I think one of the reporters will probably ask China about the videos.
Edit /// Looks like the Chinese MFA didn’t post today. I think they will be closed until Monday.
At first I thought this was a leak, but no they are just very open about wanting spies in the CPC.
I feel like Trump operates on the assumption that no one will react to counteract whatever strategy he implements. It’s the simplest answer I can think of.
Also lmao, all the things they listed as reasons why someone would want to defect (firing, jailed, disappeared) are things the US government has done this year
I feel like Trump operates on the assumption that no one will react to counteract whatever strategy he implements.
Well, when his greatest domestic opposition is the democratic party, it’s been a correct and winning assumption. The logic becomes “What’s anyone gonna do, impeach me again?” On top of that, when most of the vassals fall immediately in to line when he says so, being good dogs for the US, and the strategy keeps working even with foreign policy, there’s not much incentive to do otherwise. Fortunately China is not the Democrats nor are they Europe.
all the spies they had got got a few years ago so they have to recruit like this
Damn Havana syndrome, smdh.
Havana coupla Baijius
Also lmao, all the things they listed as reasons why someone would want to defect (firing, jailed, disappeared) are things the US government has done this year
Like when you learned to play chess for the first time as a kid.
not really. it’s not like this is a huge secret? only downside i could think of is that maybe it would make it easier for china to insert double agents?
At first I thought this was a leak, but no they are just very open about wanting spies in the CPC.
I recall an answer from John Stockwell’s interview (starting 9:05). To summarize: the CIA often aren’t trying to hide. They want potential assets to know how to find them. “[Former CIA director Allen Dulles] in the foreword of his book said that an intelligence agent, contrary to popular opinion, has to be known as such, otherwise people with secrets won’t know where to take them.”, “[CIA officers are] not fearful, they’re not playing cover games, they’re having lunch with the police chief.”
Obviously take with a grain of salt, that’s how certain operatives operate in certain conditions, but this isn’t uncharacteristic. It’s no secret that the CIA exist.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
Having my fake CIA application thrown out when they realize I’m doing a bit
Nick Mullen got through 6 rounds of interviews at the CIA with yellowface and a cone straw hat before they finally found out he was speaking gibberish and was, in fact, an American and the president of the DSA.
they finally realised Rice President was not a position within the CPC
For those who don’t have time to investigate, the position is called Secretary of State Rice
To be fair, he got a glowing letter of recommendation from his former handler at USAID.
This is the worst spycraft I could ever imagine
Any CIA agent born after 1973 doesn’t know how to engage in cloak and dagger, they just tweet, eat hot chip, and lie
Well the network of spies they had back in the day were all put in the blender and now no one wants to take the risk, also you could find plenty of hanjian in China back then but life is a whole lot better now.
The real threat is letting the Shanghai liberal clique take over and do a Gorby + Yeltsin, you wanna find CIA spies you look there first.
Big brain strategy: show up to be a spy for the CIA but secretly be a spy for China the whole time
Treason is the most based crime
if a grape betrays his vineyard, they dry him in the sun for traisin
Treason? The same charge as John Brown? Based.
Babe wake up, new site tagline just dropped.
It would be an honor
The rare triple agent
Y’all ever seen that short film the cia made about some guy becoming a Chinese spy
I can’t remember anything from it other than it was very funny
There was news in China recently about the CEO of Gree Electric, Dong Mingzhu, saying she would not hire graduates returned from overseas as some are spies. I don’t know if this CIA push is also designed to increase distrust of overseas Chinese. The timing doesn’t line up because the videos would have taken time to produce, so it’s probably coincidental/reflective of the genral trend.
When in the country recently I also saw many public notices about improving the general awareness of national security.
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The one I saw most was an ad played in which a an officeworker takes a photo of a business document, then decides not to send it to someone over the phone, a jogger comes across a military restricted zone in the hills and decides to turn off her fitness application tracking, and a livestreamer on the coast asks his friend to cut the stream when PLAN ships pass in the background. It was aired on TV, possibly the trains and definitely at the airports. The message was basically civilians also have responsibility in protecting national security. There was another too but I forgor
All this to say that this issue does appear to be within the public conscience in China, so the CIA is likely to want to either nudge that towards paranoia and or take advantage of Chinese nationals who may have not considered becoming informants till this all became news.
The Mandarin-language videos are modeled on a series of videos the agency made in recent years asking Russians to spy for the United States, appeals that previous C.I.A. leaders said helped develop new sources.
Sure…
Last year the C.I.A. released instructions in Mandarin [on Youtube] about how people in China could safely use the dark web to contact the agency. The text-only instructional video was viewed 900,000 times. While the Chinese internet is locked down and censored, American officials believe that more sophisticated Chinese officials know how to work around those controls.
Aren’t VPNs very common in China?
Here is how NYT described the videos:
lol they really do not understand a thing about china
They are describing american problems, expecting them to be similar and then framing them in “the party” language.
It’s genuinely dogshit. The old trots turned neocons would cry at this, they were truly the most dangerous, effective and damaging thing we’ve ever seen.
The correct way to find spies in the CPC is to [I wrote out my entire thoughts on this then decided to delete it and write this instead lmao]
Seriously though, the people that best know how to fuck over communists are other communists.
As a fellow communist, I believe the proper answer to how to do this would be best explained by JDPON Donald Trump himself. Don’t tell the feds, we can’t let them destroy this beautiful country.
If you think the CCP is hoarding wealth, ousting officials, and tearing families apart then boy howdy do I have a country to talk about!
Looking forward to the trial and execution.
“…and he just…just tweeted it out.”
Good idea, CIA. Tell everyone about the super secret communication networks you have so the opponent doesn’t know what to look for. Once again, former KGB must be absolutely seething.
There is no way the goal is what they stated. They’re obviously not stupid enough to believe any party member would go through with this that wasn’t already an agent for Chinese intelligence services. Is this just to provoke China? Is this some sort of cover because they have a means of poking China with some information that they collected elsewhere? Gotta be more than meets the eye.
I feel you, but every week the
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actually no, they really are that dumbfuck stupid irl. It’s actually pretty scary. Yes capital has an influence, and part of that influence is enabling these idiots to be in charge of it all. Usually these idiots would have a boss (the president or whatever) who was at least competent at managing the capitalism machine, but liberalism is unable to even produce that reliably.
Right-conspiracy theories sometimes might come from a place of being unable to accept a chaotic world and ascribing fucked up things to a higher level of control. Like illuminati (with the anti-Semitism stuff sauteed in to varying levels) and all that. I need to not fall into that trap and ascribe some level of control or intelligence where none may very well exist. Holy shit I hope I can survive what’s gonna happen.
feel gets stronger and stronger. I think I might be past the point of no return on that.
