Unlike any other country out there, Israel treats securing the existence of their people and a future for their children as their highest priority

  • FlakesBongler [they/them]@hexbear.net
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    My personal experiences have taught me that anytime someone says something is “complicated”, it often isn’t

    Just a bunch of verbal diarrhea attempting to excuse some of the worst actions imaginable

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      anytime someone says something is “complicated”, it often isn’t

      That reminded me of this.

      Ta-Nehisi Coates on his visit to Israel and Palestine - “There’s a word that come up all the time and it’s ‘complexity’ and it’s closely related adjective ‘complicated’… I assumed it would be hard to descern right from wrong to understand the morality at play [and the conflict]. But perhaps the most shocking thing was that I immediately understood.”

      “You can’t behold evil and then return and not speak on it.”

      Ta-Nehisi Coates speaks about how an experience in Palestine illuminated the connections between the African American and Palestinian liberation struggles, and the moral responsibility to speak out.

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      There are 3 tweets and each has a video.

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    Kims rhetoric often comes across as extreme. But it’s impossible to understand the DPRK without understanding its predicament: it’s a tiny country that has spent decades facing enemies committed to its destruction. That produces a security mentality unlike almost anywhere else. And unlike almost any other country out there, the DPRK treats the protection of its own citizens as the government’s highest obligation.

    Ftfy, now its much more truthful kim-drip-too-hard

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    Israel: We must murder all of our enemy’s children

    Very serious people: Why do people hate Israel so much???

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    unlike any other country out there, Israel [sic] treats the protection of its own citizens as the government’s highest obligation.

    So unlike the other countries that don’t care about this at all

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    From Chapter 9 of Adam Johnson’s excellent How to Sell a Genocide, in the section titled “The Move Along, Nothing to See Here intervention, and how to handwave away genocidal rhetoric from Israeli officials as locker room talk”:

    One New York Times article from November 15, 2023, “‘Erase Gaza’: War Unleashes Incendiary Rhetoric in Israel”[1] by Mark Landler finally noted in the paper of record “about 18,000” “inflammatory statements” by Israelis. That article played a similar, if more slippery, role of acknowledging the genocidal language emanating out of Israel, but largely downplayed it by not framing it as evidence of a plan by the Israeli government, but a hotheaded trauma response by a people gearing up for a long “war.”

    “Eran Halperin, a professor of psychology at Hebrew University in Jerusalem,” Landler writes, “argued that the use of inflammatory language by Israeli leaders is not surprising, and even understandable, given the brutality of the Hamas attacks, which inflicted collective and individual trauma on Israelis.”

    At worst, the litany of genocidal statements the New York Times reported was creating a permission structure for excessive Palestinian deaths. But, more often the case, it was framed as a PR headache for Israel, which risked “isolating” itself “around the world.” The feelings of Jewish Israelis were centered entirely, and the article did not interview any Palestinians about how this type of rhetoric is used to justify killing, terrorizing, or removing them in whole or in part. Nor did the article use the words “genocidal” or “genocide” once. The reality of Israeli officials issuing dozens of genocidal statements had to be acknowledged by the New York Times, but it was folded into broader cultural trends and presented as blowing off steam rather than the open telegraphing of specific plans. Genocidal rhetoric could be vaguely “concerning,” but could never, in and of itself, be evidence of genocidal intent.

    The goal of this particular sub-genre of Move Along, Nothing to See Here reporting and punditry was to acknowledge the undeniable—that Israeli leaders and the society more broadly were making openly genocidal statements and plans on a daily basis—but reduce it to fringe behavior, some type of trauma response, mere locker room talk, or a mistranslation by Western audiences.


    1. Landler, Mark. “‘Erase Gaza’: War Unleashes Incendiary Rhetoric in Israel.” New York Times, November 15, 2023. ↩︎

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      Oh yeah, the thing that was deployed on October 7th and was likely responsible for many deaths that day?

      According to Sunday’s report, the order to implement Hannibal-esque policies during the hours of fighting on October 7 was not limited to military bases but extended to civilians as well.

      Shortly before 11:30 a.m., an order was issued in which soldiers were told that “not a single vehicle could return to Gaza” from inside Israel, for fear that it would be transporting kidnapped individuals.

      Yeah, seems like the lives of Israelis are super important to the government.

  • dkr567 [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Israelis going around and killing Palestinians and Arabs while raiding/stealing their land since the 1930s, Same Israelis- “IT’S COMPLICATED HISTORY, WHY DO PEOPLE HATE US SO MUCH? WAAAHHH”

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    The greatest threat to Israeli security is their own bigotry. A non-bigoted Israel could integrate with Palestine and broader West Asia within a few decades. Historical wounds can always be mended by time and sincerity. But then the US would have no more use for them, their economy would collapse, and they would have to adjust to global south living standards.

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      Ministre of Security of Isn’treal, or something like that. One of the worst human that has ever existed