• Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    8 hours ago

    This was a whole plot point of season one of The Boys in which Vought International forces Starlight to wear a skimpier costume (this after she was already sexually assaulted by The Deep).

    Reality imitates art, I guess.

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      5 hours ago

      I mean, the boys was meant as biting social commentary so not sure where we are in the cart/horse equation here.

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    12 hours ago

    I mean, I’m as much of a gooner as the next guy but if you don’t think the one on the right is hot that’s a you problem.

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      11 hours ago

      Because most of the people on Lemmy are refugees from reddit and nowadays on reddit, if you are not a porn focused sub then they require you to censor every damn thing or face getting banned from that particular subreddit, getting banned from several subreddits depending on who’s modding and how many subs they are modding and how fucking stupid their bots happen to be, or getting banned from the entire site by the admins on their particular whim for that day/week.

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      Someone else already answered the why. What I think the best reaction is when you see this kind of bullshit censorship is just down vote it.

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    It’s not even a horny thing, but the one on the left is just too distracting. I’d be staring at it the whole time just trying to figure out why Supergirl made that choice.

    Her thighs would always be cold. Any major combat movement is going to make her bits show. It looks like she literally cut her shorts into that shape.

    Like… I like attractive women too, but come on, guys. There’s no way in hell she’d wear her costume like that. I’d just be annoyed by it the whole time.

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    I don’t want either. For me, superhero stuff is tried and boring. How about some new ideas?

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      There are lots of new ideas being made, go watch those. This is not made for you, it’s made for people who want old ideas presented in a blockbuster format.

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    Sex is too important to be left to porn.

    Not saying this guy in particular is right, but I hate this attitude that “porn exists so we shouldn’t have sex, or nudity, or anything horny in other art forms”. We shouldn’t treat people like creeps just because they want more horny in mainstream art.

    I find the current cinema trend of “everyone is beautiful, but no one is horny” far creepier than the rampant sexualization in old 80s movies.

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      Afaict, nobody is making the argument that you’re refuting.

      There is art that is elevated by being horny and art that is made worse by it. Being horny doesn’t fit this character, and isn’t relevant to the story being told, so it seems like a bad fit. Being a bad fit, the only people this would benefit are creeps who want upskirt shots of whoever, and I don’t think that’s a demographic to cater to at the sacrifice of the more vulnerable demographics that this film is targeting.

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      Maybe don’t sexualize the character that, at least in part, is aimed at teenage girls.

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          The point of the post and the reason for calling the guy a creep (I say guy because we’re definitely dealing with a male here) is because he wants a movie that is not designed to be pornography to have elements that would be better placed in a pornographic movie. You are inserting a degree of kink shaming into the post that doesn’t actually exist. Watching pornography and having a healthy attitude about sex is different from wanting to sexualize a story that is not trying to be sexual. That is creepy.

          Edit: deleted unnecessary sentence

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            we’re definitely dealing with a male here

            Using “male” as a noun to describe a person is dehumanizing

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            Again, I’m not defending this particular guy - I’m criticizing the response, which is an attitude that’s prevelant today, especially amongst the youth. A lot of people hate on sex/nudity of any form in mainstream art, and their argument is generally “just go watch porn you creeps”.

            Maybe Supergirl specifically shouldn’t be sexualized (even though she’s sexualized in most of the source material I remember), but if so, let’s come up with a better reason than “a containment genre exists for sex, and if you want to see it escape that box then you’re a degenerate!”.

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              Not arguing with you, but you misunderstand the point of the post. A guy that would get so mad that he would refuse to use a ticket he already has purchased (which is almost certainly a fictional scenario) because he can’t see the crotch of the protagonist is a creep… The reference to porn in the response hammers the point home because it is a movie that you can watch that will definitely contain visible crotches. It’s not commentary on the presence of sex in movies or that it should be limited to pornography, but a specific comment about that one person who seems to be taking a moral stand over not being able to see more of the protagonist’s crotch. You keep trying to say the post is a broader comment on sex in movies. That assumption is not supported by the post. I only responded because you seem well intentioned, but are maybe drawing upon a personal event that is not applicable to the post itself.

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        12 hours ago

        why is her outfit ‘sexualizing’ anyway?

        even if her outfit didn’t suggest ‘panties’ it’d still be sexy because it accentuates her form.

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        the actress is probably 35, who cares who the character is aimed at. it’s normal for men to see an attractive woman and be like ‘wow she’s attractive.’

        you’re pathologizing normal thinking and probably feeling incredibly satisfied with your lame response because you used the word ‘teenage’ and nobody would dare to cross swords.

        grow up.

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      That’s one of the things I didn’t like about gal gadisreal’s version of Wonder woman. Her whole costume is half a step above a bikini with how skimpy it is.

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      porn in america is hyper-aggressive and focused on penetration. there’s no eroticism to it. it’s crass and disgusting.

      there’s something to putting on a 90s skinemax film and seeing hot milfs wearing sexy, satin nighties tenderly riding men on a real bed in a real bedroom, instead of watching giant, unearthly cocks penetrating gaping vaginas in extreme close-up.

      what a boneheaded take out of the OP.

      there’s a HUGE difference between what porn is selling and what turns you on.

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        Has it occured to you that a supergirl movie is not a vehicle designed to “turn you on” whereas the pornophraphy industry explicitly caters to sexual desires.

        Also who gives a fuck how shit american porn is, we have the internet

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        porn in america is hyper-aggressive and focused on penetration. there’s no eroticism to it. it’s crass and disgusting.

        Truuue.

        what a boneheaded take out of the OP.

        Well, the guy they’re talking to is almost certainly a Sargon of Akkad-lite who is upset that feminism is ruining his disney movies. I would tell him to go watch porn too, but that’s because I like zingers.

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    What we want: henry cavill in the exact outfit on the left

    What we got: henry cavill in the normal superman outfit

    Not pictured: an AI rendering of the above, because do we really need to spend resources on that?

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      “Yes, we must acceleray the atmospheric cooking of the planet to make an uncanny valley rendition of a meme we have already clearly explained with words that maybe a dozen people will see and exhale out their nose breifly at” - too many people, for some reason

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        I know a dozen fanfic artists who have already drawn it or similar imagery for free

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    This is my exact stance. I want my porn separate from my non-porn.

    People that just have badonkulous jiggle physics blasting while they play a normal game baffle me.

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      I get you but also I feel like this is an unrealized pushback to just how sanitized a lot of mainstream culture has become. I feel like a lot of media up until about the 2010s give or take had a lot of sexual elements without being porn outright and while not necessarily being erotic, it really does feel like a weird bit of cultural puritanism especially given how hot a lot of actors are.

      In summary a lot of things are hot but basically nothing is sexy and it’s weird.

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        My issue with “porn in nonporn” is it almost always feels objectifying. Like the gooner Supergirl in the OP image: if her character liked the look of a battlethong and owned it, then that’s fine. It might even factor into the story. But if she just looks like that and acts like things are normal, then it’s like she is being sexed up solely for some nondiegetic viewer. It gives me the same sort of voyeuristic ick as invisible people peeping in locker rooms or perverts abusing X-Ray glasses.

        I don’t mind Skinemax; like softcore porn is fine. Because everyone understands the assignment.

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          I get what you’re saying and I agree to an extent but even shit like that doesn’t really exist anymore. Like I said it feels like something over corrected when moving away from objectification and right into puritanism. I don’t quite have the verbage required to quite explain what I mean, it just kinda feels like a lot of media and even culture is outright sex averse in a weird way.

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            I’d say that is a US-centric concern (and media that expects the US market), maybe even more broadly a Western concern. Japan at least, uh, has not had much of a concern with sexifying…pretty much anything.

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          I can only think of maybe a small handful of positive instances of “porn in nonporn”. For example, Bayonetta as a character is very much aware of her sexiness, and approves of flaunting it. Compare that to something like Stellar Blade, where the Eve is just “accidentally” super hot, with zero self awareness.

          I agree, is what I’m saying.

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      I’m like this about food.

      I like my candy and food to be separate. All this candy-masquerading-as-food, like sweetened yogurt and cranberry sauce, can get bent.

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      It is bloody irritating when there’s anime boobies in my face, while trying to loot my enemies for every resource they have.

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    As a woman, I kinda thought for a second that the costume on the left looks kinda cool. Then I remembered chub rub exists and visibly recoiled. It would be so painful to walk around in that jfc

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      There’s probably something from the 90s/early 00s with her dressed like that. Comics were really ramping it up for a while there. Not that teenager me was complaining.

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    i like it when my pornography creeps up in non-porn places, but that’s because my crippling addiction to porn has made porn boring

    recently i even jerked off to a rubik’s cube because it was the least porn thing i could think of

    that slutty-ass cube